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Quote: Leaguefan "As things stand at the moment, the entrance fee could be FREE and still the people would not come.

Not all of the reasons are entirely the current clubs fault, there are a lot of historical reasons as well. I would suggest that if a straw poll was held in the town and the question was something like "Can you name a professional sporting club in or near the town?", that the Cougars would hardly be mentioned.

The solutions are not entirely in the current clubs hands either, but reading what bits of information are available it seems that the present position is as good as it is likely to get.

The WHOLE system of Rugby League in this country, IMO, needs restructuring and reorganising, not just sticking plasters and hope & pray.

The actual game on the field needs very little change.'"


Glad to see someone can see what the real problem is. Cracking post.

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Just pointing out that the system proposed isn't as 'unworkable' as was stated

A Strong post posted, less of a strong reply posted back, nowt wrong with that, could have been a stronger but didn't see the point in creating something from it.

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Quote: guess who "Speak for yourself
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Quote: Mr Churchill "Unworkable. How could this be administered - apart from making keighley cougars a laughing stock in the internet age with bits of paper and rubber stamps
Thank you for such constructive comments Mr Churchill , I presume you have
the gumption to come up with a more workable idea ???

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Quote: Dominance "Great constructive thoughts to someones idea? Well done.'"


Thank you. What do you think of the idea?

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Quote: burleycougar "Thank you for such constructive comments Mr Churchill , I presume you have
the gumption to come up with a more workable idea ???'"


The opening post had it about right.

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Quote: Mr Churchill "The opening post had it about right.'"


The opening post would close the club

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The entrance price for the Challenge Cup 5th round tie between Huddersfield and Leeds was reduced to £8 for everybody and the attendance was by far the biggest of the round (more than double all but one of the other 5th round matches) - even though it was live on BBC TV.

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Quote: Wooden Stand "The entrance price for the Challenge Cup 5th round tie between Huddersfield and Leeds was reduced to £8 for everybody and the attendance was by far the biggest of the round (more than double all but one of the other 5th round matches) - even though it was live on BBC TV.'"

The attendance was 11,000 which considering the price, and two clubs in good form, is pretty poor IMO.

We need to do something that will make people sit up and take notice, that means a big signing and winning games.

If you did a one off cut price on the back of this you might entice people down - Loosing to Doncaster and Dewsbury will not.

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Quote: HalifaxCougar "Thank you. What do you think of the idea?'"


Respect to the person for caring and taking the time to suggest an idea. It may not work or be viable but I don't know the finances at the club so I'm not sure how much financial resilience there is to try things. I think Mike Smith on another thread has it right. The club has to be brave, but calculated. I'm not suggesting they break the bank, but IMO there does need to some speculation with a view to accumulating.

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Quote: Wooden Stand "Could the directors be brave and change the matchday entrance pricing to £5 for everybody?

Then work your socks off to get the crowd up to 2,000 to start with. Of the two options in the subject, I know which fans and players would prefer and there would be 3 times the chance to generate income from add-on sales - food & drinks etc. I'd also have a 'happy hour' so that on first team matchdays, all drinks inc beer are half price (and advertise the fact in advance!).

German soccer gets average crowds higher than the English Premier League based on low ticket prices and cheap beer.

Season tickets could then be scrapped from next season (except for those who want them for the stand). This would save the cost of producing and distributing the proposed 40,000 free under 16 season tickets. People don't really value anything that is free. Even a very low cost means that those who really want it will buy.

If the entrance was £5, tickets could be printed for each match and sold at outlets for a small commission eg all those outlets that sell national lottery tickets.

It wouldn't preclude small target promotions at schools and workplaces for each match at even less than £5.

Something is needed to start building momentum now with the opportunity that the proposed re-structure of the game will provide.

Could the directors trial the £5 entrance fee for everybody for the say the last two home league games this season?'"


In answer to the bigger question:

There are possibly 2 ideologies here. One ideology is to "stack them high and sell them cheap" and the other ideology is for a fair market price to be paid for the product (Keighley Cougars match day ticket pricing is aligned with all the other Championship clubs). In order to justify setting the price at £5 we would have to have roughly 3 times the number of paying fans coming through the gate on that particular match day. The reason for this is because significant resources would have to be expended to promote the offer in the fear that 3 times as many fans don't turn up. As a result the club could lose around £4k to £5k on that day. Further, there is no guarantee that the people who attend the cheap match would re-attend on another occasion. Also, getting other outlets to sell £5 tickets would take an immense amount of effort to set up and the club doesn't have the resources to do this at the moment.

Having said this we do have a Ladies Day (where ladies are allowed in for free and get a glass of sparkling wine and we had a Bloke's day whereby a man would get a half price drink up to an hour before the game and a half price drink if they stayed after 5pm. Both offers were taken up but were fairly lukewarm .

My contention would be the crowds would be bigger if we were winning significantly more matches than we are at the moment AND if there was something to play for, i.e. promotion to a higher league. In Cougarmania days there were significant and revolutionary things done BUT the silver bullet was promotion and the drive to Super League. If it wasn't what else would have accounted for the drop off in crowds rapidly when promotion wasn't achieved?

In addition to this, Bradford Bulls, when they weren't doing so well instituted a very cheap season ticket to boost crowds and it ultimately led to administration. This is something the current Cougars Board would seek to avoid at all costs. Financial stability is the critical issue.

It would be very revolutionary to scrap season tickets. The Cougars tried a membership scheme last year but very few took it up. Some, not all, fans like season tickets so it would be potentially suicidal to scrap them. In terms of the junior season tickets our trial this year has proven we can print and distribute 40,000 for around £1,500 as we distribute through the schools. We estimate that it would cost about the same amount to promote 1 match at a £5 ticket price. Given that the strategy would be to get more children, and ultimately parents and grandparents, down to match days we feel that is a good use of the club's finite resources.

In summary, we will do promotions but we will be careful about it.

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Good post TCV, cheers.

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