What a nice christmas pressie to all the fans, players and all the backroom staff from the directors of cougars 2001, thanks for that. Never before have I even considered stopping watching the cougars. I hope to god the new directors do not include the previous ones. Anyway thats my moan done for now, good luck to all the players for next season.

Good Post

Whilst we all winge and speculate about what's happened there's a load of staff and players down at Cougar Park who no doubt have been going through a rotten few weeks.

Hopefully it's not going to get worse for them and we can all start to move forward with KC2010.

Last of all, Merry Christmas to all players, staff and everyone posting on here.

Interesting info on the link www.keighleynews.co.uk It appears the new club being run on a not for profit organisation which suprised but also pleased me.

Interesting info on the link www.keighleynews.co.uk It appears the new club being run on a not for profit organisation which suprised but also pleased me.

A debt as large as this means that the people running the club are completely incompetant. If my calculations are correct then the clubs VAT bill can not be much more than £30k per year and there may be £40k per year in PAYE. This means that this debt represents probably about three years in unpaid tax.

All what we have been told over the last few years is a crock of s**t, and the club has been run in to the ground. Far from not spending more than we can afford, they have been vastly overspending for years. What is most disturbing though is that the club must have been running at a loss even when we had a team of virtual amateurs at the bottom of the table. If that is so where was all the money going, as it certainly wasn't on players?

Even Oldham, who have been spending a fortune on players for years only owed £50k.

This just beggars belief, and god help us if any of the people who are working at the club are still involved in the new one.

180 grand over 9 years , so 20 grand a year , works out at around 150 extra fans a game

Is that what it was - 9 years? Or are you going on the 2001 LTD?

Just looking at the current admin taking over in 2001 , so 9 years till now

It is a fine line between profit and loss at many businesses , the problem comes when a companies costs are fixed and it's income is not

Success at most normal businesses usually results in more income over and above any increases in costs , unfortunatley in sports businesses the opposite can be and usually is the case

You can have the most successful sports business in the world and lose millions per year , in a normal business you can be the worst performing but still make a tidy profit

It is a double edged sword , success costs , failure costs , what is needed is more revenue and income no matter what happens on the playing side

Load of staff? Too many i think.time to cut the wage bill,simple as!

Quite simply the buck stops with those with ultimate responsibility at the club which means both directors of cougars 2001. The silence on this from them is deafening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obe, cutting staff? That's a bit harsh - it should only ever be a last resort. That's people's livelihoods you're taking away!
A few more fans per game would be a better solution, so let's get out there and spread the word.

As I posted earlier , 150 per game would have given you the 180 grand over 9 years , the problem then is that the BOD would then budget for 150 more than that , and so it goes on

The answer is more revenue not reliant on the playing of RL , or increasing income from all sources available to the club , and finding new revenue streams and accessing them and maximissing them

I would suggest an half decent explanation of this debt would be a good start, and letting us know the make up of the new board might also help things along.

I certainly won't be beating a drum for the club until we get shown some respect, as opposed to the b******t we've been fed about about our financial stability.

Whilst it's not nice to let people go, it's a fair point Steve.

We've got reserves being paid to do development work.

I know junior rugby league is important and so is getting down with the kids but in my opinion it should be left to the 3 full time first team players to do it.

A lot of this massive bill that was due will be most likely be interest that HM Revenue & Customs charge on late and overdue payments. Over the last few years this interest rate has moved up and down from a high of 8.5% to a low of 2.5% that HMRC charge over the course of the year. This interest is added to the original value on a DAILY basis until the whole amount is paid. So I think a lot of the money will have built up there.

Doesn't make any excuses for how the club managed to get themselves into this mess. Just like our club did a few years back. It would be better if they were upfront with the fans in the first place and explain how it happened.

Good luck for the coming season, look forward to seeing you all when we play.