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| Quote: 666 "Will anyone/everyone please tell me why they criticise the supporters when Danny Jones is a major-user of the 'F' word when he is on the pitch?
What do I say to my 4-year-old grandson when he says 'What does Fxxx mean grandad?'
Will and can the Club respond?'"
The same as you would if it was said in the street.
I am pretty we have all said things in the heat of the moment. If any of you really think a player is not going to swear at some point during a game. You really need to get out more.
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| Quote: "I am pretty we have all said things in the heat of the moment. If any of you really think a player is not going to swear at some point during a game. You really need to get out more.'"
Got to agree with that. Rugby league is a tough, physical, passionate sport and as someone who plays the game who also thinks of themself as eloquent and having a good command of the English language, there are occasions when swearing at team-mates is the only option.
Although I can see people's point of view about fans language on the terraces, saying about sending players off for swearing is ridiculous.
I think personally that swearing is less the problem and it's more fans aggressive behaviour which can sometimes encompass swearing and racism which cause issues. I feel that banter between opposing fans and giving the officials a bit of a hard time is all part of the 'family atmosphere' and theatre of a game but occasionally this spills over as certain idiots take it too far.
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| Thanks for the comments. That will be six less supporters at the next home game!
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| Quote: 666 "Thanks for the comments. That will be six less supporters at the next home game!'"
That is pathetic.
Not everyone agrees with me so im going to deny the club money, good effort.
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| @666 I'm sorry you feel this way but come on, it seems we are trying find to problems now when really we should 110% behind the lads it was a good win on Sunday and I hope we can perform/improve like that against Swinton and the big one against Dewsbury and continue to give 110% for the remainder of the season. So lets forget about it and move on, I'm sure Danny wont use language like that all the time, its just on the pitch things get heated end of!
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| Different people are more or less offended by different things and you can't criticise someone if they feel it isn't the right environment for them or their kids or grandkids and trying to bang the drum of blind support is the wrong way to go. As I've said already, players swear in the moment and it's difficult to really do anything about that but choices of where abouts to stand to protect younger ears could be made perhaps. I've been going to Cougar Park for over 20 years and the only time I've heard anyone really swear was when the physio told me my knee was f***ed when I was 17.
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| Quote: 666 "Thanks for the comments. That will be six less supporters at the next home game!'"
Have you asked the other 5?
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| This post does seem to have provoked many different opinions. I accept Kenco that we need to focus our attention on the field and support the lads. The've had a difficult season and we should not be too critical of them & get behind them as I aways do.
It was not my original complaint to critisise players for swearing, that was instigated by another reply.
Being involved in sport as player or coach can bring it's frustration, as I know only too well.
My original point was the mindless use of the 'F' word in family area's regardless of the fact there were Women & Children in earshot. Remember the club has extended the 'Family Day Offer' to the Dewsbury game !
Also the racial comment from one supporter.
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| As background information, I've been supporting Keighley and the Cougars since 1962 when the 'F' word was never heard on the field. So why is it accepted now? OK, I might be taking an extreme stance, but why should 'young ears' ever be exposed to obsceneties?
If 'Guess Who' (I hope that I haven't misunderstood his comment) thinks that it is acceptable to shout obsceneties 'on the street' then I really do feel that he should be removed as a moderator of this forum.
Talk about a 'Family Game'! What type of 'Family' do you want to support the Cougars? Certainly not mine that have 'TRUE Family Values'.
In words that you all will understand, whatever your age, we will take your example and 'F OFf' to a better family environment.
Thanks for nothing after 51 years of loyal home and away support!
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| Quote: 666 "
If 'Guess Who' (I hope that I haven't misunderstood his comment) thinks that it is acceptable to shout obsceneties 'on the street' then I really do feel that he should be removed as a moderator of this forum.'"
Wow you really do jump to conclusions dont you.
I said you should deal with it as you would if you heard it anywhere else. How in Gods name does that mean i said its ok?
What do you think he is going to hear when he goes to school?
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| Quote: guess who "Wow you really do jump to conclusions dont you.
I said you should deal with it as you would if you heard it anywhere else. How in Gods name does that mean i said its ok?
What do you think he is going to hear when he goes to school?'"
Sweet innocent words of darling angels, maybe?
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| Aah yes, the darling angels of Keighley... the ones that in their early teens are bringing the next generation of darling angels into the world haha. Those same kids that would never hear or dream of saying a swear!!
'Foul language' has origins in history and perhaps isn't as foul as people are making out. It is in the dictionary and is part of language, culture and life... it isn't the big deal people make it. Intelligent, eloquent people swear, it's life.
Racism is not acceptable and is ridiculous but swearing is language... if Shakespeare was about nowadays he'd be swearing with the best of them.
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| So, 'K town Rosco' we all attend Cougar Park next Sunday and be quite happy to use 'FOUL LANGUAGE' regardless of who is next to you.
What a pleasant atmosphere !
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| A couple of years ago a friend of mine who I spent many conversations persuading him to come to Cougar Park turned up. It was the Batley Sky game of 2010. He came along with his two kids. He and they loved the atmosphere the game and so did his kids.
He sat in the stand and very close to a member of staff from Cougars.
As the game went on and the excitement grew and chances were missed and chances were taken, as the ref got things right and got some things wrong the member of staff went from shouting a few swear words to constantly yelling swear words none stop at his team, or at nobody in particular as they expressed exasperation.
My mate said he enjoyed the game, but said he would never come back here with kids as the foul language was a disgrace. I felt embarrassed for persuading him to come.
He has never been back and never will.
I have seen other Dads with there lads enjoying the first game. Some part take in the shouting and appear oblivious to the swearing. But a few I have seen have been pretty offended by it and never returned.
Few people never swear at some time and place, but why the need to shout it for the whole ground to hear?
I don't think anybody expects a crowd of robots clapping when prompted, but just a wee bit more consideration and thought before a fog horn volume of Foul language.
I personally like the banter, shouting between fans, Who are you, You thought you scored etc and of Course at Fax the What's up Pussycat etc. The drum adds hugely to the atmosphere.
It is the Stewards job to control this. (Good luck with that)
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| Quote: "So, 'K town Rosco' we all attend Cougar Park next Sunday and be quite happy to use 'FOUL LANGUAGE' regardless of who is next to you.
What a pleasant atmosphere !'"
Hmmm reductio ad ridiculum... I don't think I quite advocated that, merely that swear words are essentially just words.
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