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My tone is not 'proper' or ' nice'. ?
There certainly wasn't any ' conflict' in any of my earlier posts .


Come to the meetings , join in, and help us do the one thing
that is really needed.... Raise some cash for squad builder instead of just sitting there
pulling other peoples efforts to bits.

Oh ,by the way ,one of rhe members of pirag is going to try to get a group of
volunteers to help clean ; tidy and mend down at the ground,again anyone is
welcome to join in. I'm sure details will be posted here soon.We will also be trying to
to get tje golden goal going at half time again.... Do you all approve and trust us with
that ????? icon_frustrated.gif

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Burley Cougar - For the record, I haven't taken any of your post's as angry or aggressive. I just thought we have differing views and in essence that contributed to a decent debate. When you place angry logo's on it would suggest you are getting frustrated though! Maybe that's why GW has mentioned it?

I have no issue with you and honestly applaud what is being done. I have no aspiration or intention of joining the PIRAG, but appreciate many give up time to help the Cougars succeed. I have given up many hours of my own time to assist the club so we share a common goal and I don't mean just standing on the terraces.

I have my views of the PIRAG and you have yours. There's nothing wrong with that. Maybe in my last post I used incorrect wording in "properly". I didn't mean it to sound that harsh. This thread was started by people asking for views which I have provided. If anyone reading this is not a member of the PIRAG I agree with you, go down to a meeting and form your own opinion.

Who has pulled your efforts to bits? I have given my view on the PIRAG set-up and the squad builder link. I have not criticised the work anyone has done?

I hope this clears it up, but there's no animosity from my perspective.

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Why didn't people who have started and joined pirag just join squadbuilder in the first place.

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Quote: true brit "Why didn't people who have started and joined pirag just join squadbuilder in the first place.'"


Because PIRAG is intended to be more than just a fundraising organisation. It's about giving fans a collective voice through a legitimate recognised organisation. A fully independent supporters group that hopefully in time will be fully established and afilliated with supporters direct, an organisation that represents and helps groups of fans across the country.

I think it would be good if those heavily involved with PIRAG could put in more detail on here what they're about because I genuinely believe the more members they get the better it will be for us a fans and ultimately for the club as well.

From the meetings I've been to I can say they have a lot of good information that fans can use to make an informed decision based on facts, not perceptions, it needs to be out there.

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Fair do's dominance.
The angry icon was a mistake by the way .... The keys on this smart phone are too smapl
when you have hands like shovels lol and as i spend a lot of my time laid flat out
Due to pain or knocked out by uber strong opioid pain killers it tends to be
easier to use than the laptop

@stealth .... The first paragraph basically explains what we are about with the
addition of trying to raise funds for squadbuilder.

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Quote: burleycougar "My tone is not 'proper' or ' nice'. ?
There certainly wasn't any ' conflict' in any of my earlier posts .


Come to the meetings , join in, and help us do the one thing
that is really needed.... Raise some cash for squad builder instead of just sitting there
pulling other peoples efforts to bits.

Oh ,by the way ,one of rhe members of pirag is going to try to get a group of
volunteers to help clean ; tidy and mend down at the ground,again anyone is
welcome to join in. I'm sure details will be posted here soon.We will also be trying to
to get tje golden goal going at half time again.... Do you all approve and trust us with
that ?????
First of all. Where have i said, that any of your posts on this subject have been, not 'proper' or ' nice'?. I was just making a observation.

But your post does come across as confrontational. Please explain how that is going to encourage people to come along?

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Quote: Stealth Comic "Because PIRAG is intended to be more than just a fundraising organisation. It's about giving fans a collective voice through a legitimate recognised organisation. A fully independent supporters group that hopefully in time will be fully established and afilliated with supporters direct, an organisation that represents and helps groups of fans across the country.'"


That sums it up in a nutshell.

As far as I am aware, it has not been set up to be in competition with other activities but to complement them in the same way that the much misunderstood and maligned (by the club) KISA tried to do.

It is paramount that organisations like this have a legitimate, recognised constitution and are independent of the club. I see no reason why it can't join with squadbuilder as long as the members want this, and the constitution reflects this. But I believe the members would need to vote for this to happen. Some are members of both organisations already.

It's a shame more fans did not attend the early meetings.

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I was under the impression that the "temporary" Steering Committee was set up with the sole intention of establishing a Democratic Supporters Trust, which it has yet to do. I maintain that the steering committee do not have the democratic power to change the setup of PIRAG. I believe that the Steering Committee should concentrate on the job in hand i.e. establishing the Supporters Trust before going out on a limb.

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