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That's tough. We were never free flowing, in fact under KH we tended to wear teams down rather than cut them to pieces. It was one of the complaints under KH that we did not go for it when we seemed to have teams there for the taking.
As for spoiling, nothing more than sour grapes I think.
You have more players who have played at a higher level than us and should be able as a team be able to cope with this level. Semi T was pretty anonymous yesterday and had little impact on the game. JD played well but I wonder if the pressure of coaching at this level and leading his team might be a bit too much this season. RB was only ok, how did he win the MOM, and SO led well but struggled in the second half I think. I could go on about your big name players!
I would also be worried that you had so much possession during the first half and first 20 of the second that you should have been out of sight. The title of this thread is very apt, your boys looked knackered with 20 to go! Not good.
We were not very good at all yesterday, yet we still won!
Good luck for the rest of the season, I hope you thrive and enjoy this level, it's become an exciting division with lots of shocks to be had.

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Quote: distantdog "As for spoiling, nothing more than sour grapes I think.'"


What has the truth, got to do with sour grapes?

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I have only been wrong once and thats because I thought I was wrong but I was wrong I was right! Petty authoritarians aren’t man enough to challenge the actions of a person face to face; instead they incite a forum of rumour, innuendo and half truths, and impose rude sanctions to discourage those who dare question fairness. Anon.:simpsons/simp048.gif



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As for spoiling, nothing more than sour grapes I think.
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Not sour grapes at all, congratulations on your victory.

It's my opinion, which I'm entitled to - you spoiled plain and simple. It got you a victory so once again well done, but it's not the sort of rugby I want to watch.

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I am interested to know exactly what we did that would be considered spoiling. I thought defensively we were pretty good yesterday if that's what you mean. Oh and I never said you were not entitled to an opinion, feel free to express it.

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Some of these comments on 'spoiling tactics' and 'dirty play' are reminiscent of remarks made by Cougars fans in the mid-90's when our team of free transfers used to beat your expensive big names at both Cougar Park and Mount Pleasant. Come on, at least wait until your side are at the top end of the league before starting with this tripe. As for the 'turned from a free flowing side into a bunch of spoilers' rubbish, did you ever watch us under Harrison???!!! We played some of the most negative, unattractive rugby I've ever seen at Batley during that period. Although it was successful, and is what makes Harrison a good coach, we were massively boring to watch at times.
Oh, and finally, thanks for the heavily-edited match highlights on Youtube - a real 'video nasty'. Some of your fans seem to have what I like to call 'St.Helens syndrome', screaming vehemently for an offence every other second. At one stage I heard cries for 'offside', 'high tackle' and 'holding down' all within a single play.

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Quote: distantdog "I am interested to know exactly what we did that would be considered spoiling. I thought defensively we were pretty good yesterday if that's what you mean. Oh and I never said you were not entitled to an opinion, feel free to express it.'"


Your defence [iwas[/i good.

By spoiling I mean laying on, flopping, slow release of the ball carrier, messing around at the play the ball, facials.

All open to interpretation, but should have been controlled by the ref.

You did what you were allowed to get away with.

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if I did my job has bad has the officials did yesterday i whould not only get the sack but i whould never get a job again it was the worst display of reffing i have ever seen and thats bad i watch alot of rugby.hope they learn from it because if they dont its going to be a long season . on that display i meant go to red hall for a job cant do no worse if they get to do it

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Quote: Dreamer "Your defence [i]was[/i] good.

By spoiling I mean laying on, flopping, slow release of the ball carrier, messing around at the play the ball, facials.

All open to interpretation, but should have been controlled by the ref.

You did what you were allowed to get away with.'"
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It was controlled by the ref, he penalised what he thought we did wrong, as he penalised what he thought you did wrong. Not many penalties for facials, slowly releasing the ball-carrier, flopping or messing. I think both teams were equally guilty, or not, as each other.

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Quote: Jim Bergerac "
Oh, and finally, thanks for the heavily-edited match highlights on Youtube - a real 'video nasty'.'"


That is done by a Keighley fan. Its aimed at Keighley fans.

It is not done by the club.

What the hell did you expect?

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Quote: guess who "That is done by a Keighley fan. Its aimed at Keighley fans.

It is not done by the club.

What the hell did you expect?'"


Obviously. However, I really don't see the need to include every single penalty conceded by the opposition. Pathetic.

Quote: guess who "if I did my job has bad has the officials did yesterday i whould not only get the sack but i whould never get a job again it was the worst display of reffing i have ever seen and thats bad i watch alot of rugby.hope they learn from it because if they dont its going to be a long season . on that display i meant go to red hall for a job cant do no worse if they get to do it'"


Really. The worst displaying of refereeing you've ever seen. Boo hoo, dry your eyes. All I can say is that you can't have been watching the game long.

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Quote: Jim Bergerac "Obviously. However, I really don't see the need to include every single penalty conceded by the opposition. Pathetic.'"


Its not aimed at Batley fans. No one made you watch it did they.

As for it being pathetic, behave yourself.

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Quote: guess who "Its not aimed at Batley fans. No one made you watch it did they.

As for it being pathetic, behave yourself.'"


To have such a blinkered view of a game that you feel compelled to include every single penalty/incident in which you feel so badly, horribly done by - whilst totally ignoring any indiscretions/possible indiscretions from your own side, IS pathetic. Its a bit like sitting down to watch a movie with some friends and then hogging the remote control to fast forward through all the bits that you, personally, don't like.

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Quote: Jim Bergerac "Some of these comments on 'spoiling tactics' and 'dirty play' are reminiscent of remarks made by Cougars fans in the mid-90's when our team of free transfers used to beat your expensive big names at both Cougar Park and Mount Pleasant. Come on, at least wait until your side are at the top end of the league before starting with this tripe. As for the 'turned from a free flowing side into a bunch of spoilers' rubbish, did you ever watch us under Harrison???!!! We played some of the most negative, unattractive rugby I've ever seen at Batley during that period. Although it was successful, and is what makes Harrison a good coach, we were massively boring to watch at times.
Oh, and finally, thanks for the heavily-edited match highlights on Youtube - a real 'video nasty'. Some of your fans seem to have what I like to call 'St.Helens syndrome', screaming vehemently for an offence every other second. At one stage I heard cries for 'offside', 'high tackle' and 'holding down' all within a single play.'"



Oh that's so precious! icon_lol.gif

You should come on here more often and give us all a good laugh icon_wink.gif

I could understand your attitude if i had come on your site trolling, but really, if you don't want to hear opinions you don't like then maybe you should just sit in a corner staring at the wall. icon_wink.gif

For what its worth, I have every respect for the slow but steady progress that Batley have made over recent years, they have set a good example to many. I am more than happy to applaud good play from the opposition and I did applaud your final tries, however much they hurt. Having said that, I still maintain that your SPOILING tactics were a poor example of rugby. curtain.gif

If you want to have a hissy fit over other peoples opinions, that's your problem. Have a nice day now curtain.gif

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My view of yesterdays game is that for the majority the cougars were the better side and can count themselves unlucky not to come away with the victory. But the comments above about spoiling tactics and the standard of refereeing way are off the mark. I understand we all tend to lean in favour of our own side as im sure i myself am guilty, but you have to keep some kind of perspective. The reason keighley lost the game yesterday was there lack of fitness and lack of hunger. Batley although playing nowhere near to their full potential, played for the full 80 minutes as opposed to keighley who seemed to switch off after 65. Talk of laying on in the tackle and to quote an above post "the worst display of reffing i have ever seen" smacks of sour grapes and detracts from what was for 3/4 of the game a strong keighley performance.

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Quote: G Smith "Talk of laying on in the tackle and to quote an above post "the worst display of reffing i have ever seen" smacks of sour grapes and detracts from what was for 3/4 of the game a strong keighley performance.'"


You have no idea of the person posting that comment.
How many games they have seen. Or the standard of reffing at said games.
That persons opinion, it may well have been the worse reffing they have ever seen.
For you or anyone else to read that, that is sour grapes is the strange thing.

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