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I think it is sad that Neil's family feel the need to come on here and defend their mistakes. (Or Choices) Do Cougars Fans want to live in the past or look to the future.

I don't know anybody who guns for Neil more than Spymaster. Do you think publicly doing a supporter of the club down in public constantly does anything to help the club. Perhaps you should go see Neil and discuss it face to face.

By the way Spymaster how many games have you been to this season?
Ahh none. How would your family have liked your mistakes over recent years discussed on here.

You are on Dodgy ground slinging mud at people and it is their families you upset also.

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I think that this thread should be locked as it's going nowhere and 'Fossil' doesn't seem to be able to identify other 'posters' correctly.

I also think that Fossil needs to remember that Wikipedia statesCougar-mania

By the early 1990s things had become almost critical for Keighley, the ground was decrepit and the team was losing to the likes of the now defunct Nottingham City.

In 1991 Mick O'Neil, Mike Smith and Neil Spencer joined the board'"


Which is what everyone believed. If Neil wasn't a member of the Board then why was he allowed to be the Cougars' representative on the RL Council? I only hope that my memory serves me right as he always appeared to be a 'Director'. There were others 'standing in the wings' when Colin and Neil took control of the Club but they had already registered the new name at Companies House/Registry and 'done the deal' before anyone else was able to take any action - A 'supporter's trust' would have been ideal at the time.

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I have only been wrong once and thats because I thought I was wrong but I was wrong I was right! Petty authoritarians aren’t man enough to challenge the actions of a person face to face; instead they incite a forum of rumour, innuendo and half truths, and impose rude sanctions to discourage those who dare question fairness. Anon.:simpsons/simp048.gif



Quote: VERY FRANK "I think it is sad that Neil's family feel the need to come on here and defend their mistakes. (Or Choices) Do Cougars Fans want to live in the past or look to the future.
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I would imagine most Cougar fans want to look to the future, however, sometimes you need to reflect on the mistakes of the past to ensure they don't happen again.

At times, Neil showed little respect for many of the fans and they reciprocated in kind.

For those reasons I do not think it is [i"forward thinking"[/i to put Neil in any position associated with the club, either official or honarary.

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I couldn't agree more 'Dreamer'.

But, and this is a really [sizeBIG 'BUT'[/size why has everyone forgotten about the other 'Neil'?

Not Spencer but the one and only [size'MICK O'[/size. Mick was the real driving force behind the Cougars (apart from Mike [Smith]) so why has everyone forgotten about the debt of gratitude that is owed to them and the only reason that they failed was Lindsay!

Say no more. Forget the Salvation Army proposing Neil Spencer. Without Mick O'Neil the Cougars would have been lost years ago.

So, can anyone answer the question

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He was a member of the board until.

Quote: "The following year, there was only one promotion place into Super League and competing against some of the larger relegated teams the Cougars could only manage second place to Salford. The club was taken over in a coup by Carl Metcalfe who promised to invest £3 million into the team and the ground. O'Neil, and directors Neil Spencer and Maurice Barker left to make way for the new regime. Phil Larder resigned after not being paid and was replaced by player coach Daryl Powell in April 1995.'"


Sorry who have I miss identified I will correct it.

Vert Frank I am not defending my mistakes, I am denying the claims I am a crony,fortune hunter, bully and thug, I am not saying my father should have or wants the honour he is still enjoying his rugby I believe he would agree Mick O Neil is a good choice they are still friends but I started this to defend me not him.

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Oh and Dreamer is 666 a really angry person with a seriously weak argument?

I dont think so but based on your statement I may be wrong as I dont have all the [sizefacts[/size.

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I have only been wrong once and thats because I thought I was wrong but I was wrong I was right! Petty authoritarians aren’t man enough to challenge the actions of a person face to face; instead they incite a forum of rumour, innuendo and half truths, and impose rude sanctions to discourage those who dare question fairness. Anon.:simpsons/simp048.gif



Quote: Fossil "Oh and Dreamer is 666 a really angry person with a seriously weak argument?'"


If you are going to use my quote back at me at least don't add words for dramatic effect icon_biggrin.gif

Why did Cougars get insufficient return, big question and I can’t answer it and don’t want to I started this, once again to defend me and I apologise to my father for being drawn into defending him I should know better.

However could have just been too much for Neil and Colin, why they were so foolishly trying to manage it for people who wanted them out and after retirement age I do not know, I wouldn’t have done it.

Wait a minute love of the Keighley Cougars and rugby league.

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Oh and let me ask a question 666, how many times was Neil Spencer a director of the club when it folded?

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Quote: FACT "Incidentally, if you are new to internet forums there are two things you should bear in mind

Just for fun explain this sentence to me. Are you saying you find I am a fool who has no experience on internet forums, or are you giving advice that with the strong argument I have I should not spoil it by putting words in capitals, or are you saying that I have a weak argument and the capitals prove this and you believe I was aware of the way capitals are taken but thought you would point it out to me anyway to try and make me look foolish, or are you just saying I am a angry person with a weak argument. I get the feeling the being helpful option is off the table so it must be one of the more lets be nasty for nasties sake options. icon_wink.gif

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I have only been wrong once and thats because I thought I was wrong but I was wrong I was right! Petty authoritarians aren’t man enough to challenge the actions of a person face to face; instead they incite a forum of rumour, innuendo and half truths, and impose rude sanctions to discourage those who dare question fairness. Anon.:simpsons/simp048.gif



Quote: Fossil "Just for fun explain this sentence to me. Are you saying you find I am a fool who has no experience on internet forums, or are you giving advice that with the strong argument I have I should not spoil it by putting words in capitals, or are you saying that I have a weak argument and the capitals prove this and you believe I was aware of the way capitals are taken but thought you would point it out to me anyway to try and make me look foolish, or are you just saying I am a angry person with a weak argument. I get the feeling the being helpful option is off the table so it must be one of the more lets be nasty for nasties sake options.
At the time I read your first post you only had two or three posts to your name so I assumed you were a newbie.

I was trying to be helpful with a bit of humour thrown in but hey, take it anyway you want.

If you use the wider RLFANS site you will notice that when the word FACT is used in captitals it is taken with a pinch of salt by other users. Just typing FACT after a statement does not make it so.

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Now that actually was helpful, thank you.

The forum I go on there are only two rules, rule one you cant go too far, rule two, if you go too far refer to rule one.

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Quote: Fossil "Now that actually was helpful, thank you.

The forum I go on there are only two rules, rule one you cant go too far, rule two, if you go too far refer to rule one.'"


There are a lot more than two on here.
You can read them all rlhererl if you wish.

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I did read them previously and feel free to tell me if I have breached any of them. The link to another rugby league site may be a breach and i will remove it if you would like it is where then Pennine Rugby league lunatics vent themselves, I dont generally take advantage of the liberal atitude they have but neither am I offend by it.

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