So you are happy to be lied to ?

Or treated like an idiot ?

It's obviously pie in the sky at the moment - we all know we'll need a miracle to stay in the division - but the board have to show some ambition.
If asked to break it into manageable chunks, they'd probably say survival first, consolidate for a couple of seasons or more (!) and then the 'big push' for SL. But that isn't a dramatic headline grabber, is it?
It's better than saying "we have no desire to play in SL ever - in fact, you can stick it up yer a**e, Stevo!" when interviewed on Sky TV, innit?!

Ive supported this team long enough to appreciate both your questions.....


But this is a new board - with ambition, and I am keen to know more.

Alternative press releaseWe're keen to consolidate and entertain the few hundred fans we have - hopefully we will win a few a games but unfortunatley we will be relagated due to the points deduction. It's going to be a hard slog but I'm sure that the new board, myself and the 123 season ticket holders will eventualy see success, that is, unless we go bust again due to demotion and negative press releases..

Gary [/i

I'll buy that for a dollar

I think thats a touch strong, and perhaps a tad unfair.

All businesses need an ambition to reach for, no matter how remote. As long as they keep things in perspective and don't get into huge debt trying to live the dream then I have no problem with aiming high.

A business can only be taken seriously if great ambition is backed by a great business plan, be it a 3 year, 5 year or 10 year plan. So far we have heard the ambition, "we want to be in SL", now what is the business plan to get us there. Overspending and going bust is clearly not viable so what is it?

Surely a better statement would have been 'We are anly going to spend what we can afford and want to be as good as we can possibly be.'
A realistic and achievable goal.

www.sporthull.co.uk/hullkr/news/ ... ticle.html This gives an idea of what is required Sorry if my previous reply was a tad strong , but thats just the way it is , I dont want Leigh to even consider SL until we can draw 4/5,000 crowds in the Championship , and that is with a stadium already in place , so the jump from where you are now to competitive in SL is more than huge

www.sporthull.co.uk/hullkr/news/ ... ticle.html This gives an idea of what is required Sorry if my previous reply was a tad strong , but thats just the way it is , I dont want Leigh to even consider SL until we can draw 4/5,000 crowds in the Championship , and that is with a stadium already in place , so the jump from where you are now to competitive in SL is more than huge

Quite alright old bean, one would assume that having talked the talk they can walk the walk.

As long as they have done a root and branch examination of the business and put in place firm strategies and goals with targets and people responsible for attaining them then they are heading in the right direction. If, in a number of years that means we are in a viable position to have a tilt at super dooper league then so be it. On a personal level I have actually stopped worrying about reaching that level, but I can see why ambition is important to attract sponsors and new fans and to give a vision.

Check out this website.. snoop4directors.co.uk..oh dear oh dear..

give us a clue... Who are we searching on?

I've found me if that helps

I've done some research on the super league licencing for a piece of coursework, we really dont stand a chance for a long long time yet, as much as i'd love to see my home town in super league its gonna be a while... at least 2017 possibly 2020.

The criteria works on a points system, the clubs with most points get in, simples!

Stadium with a capacity of 12,000+ = 1 point
Stadium meeting standards of a premier 21st centuary competition = 1 point

Averaging 10,000 speccies = 1point
Stadium working at 40%+ capacity = 1 point

Club being solvent = 1 point
Club with an annual turnover of £4million = 1 point

Gaining a top 8 position in Championship over 3 years = 1 point
At least 25% of players being home grown = 1 point

Not breaching salary cap for three previous seasons = 1 point

Not having another rugby league club within 20 miles = 1 point

Thats just the 2009 criteria!

So realistically where are we now, and how long is it going to take to take to super league? Cos we won't be as lucky as Toulouse with the joy's of being an isolated club for expansion purposes.
I think we need to start working on bringing fans in to start of with.

The phrase trying to run before you can walk springs to mind...

"I've found me if that helps " - I Havent found myself yet! here is still hoping for the new year and 2010.

keighley......Super League ?? Yeah Right.....Thought there were certain criteria to apply for a license ??
Like not being in administration in the last 3 years.......cross
Like winning the championship or Northern Rail Cup......cross (a bit presumptious but not a cat in hells chance)
Winning the championship........cross (Less chance than the above)
Stadium criteria............cross

Cant see any other placing than bottom even without a points deduction !
Who was it that actually quoted this ?? and do even the die hard fans think this is possible in the next decade.

You can bet your bottom cougar dollar that Halifax, Widnes, Leigh, a new french mob and possibly a new welsh mob
will get in over the next 10-15 years, before Keighley would even enter anyones thoughs.

Remember cougarmania many years ago and it was great but those days are history which are likely not to be repeated in my lifetime. On a positive I do love games played at Cougar Park, great little ground and atmosphere and good craic.

Unless there's a miracle it's not going to happen.

When we were averaging 4500 fans, winning the old 2nd division and beating top flight teams in the cup they wouldn't let us in.

With half them fans now supporting Super League teams I just can't see the glory days returning.