All that moaning and if Williams had passed they were kicking to win.

I don't think it was as bad as everyone is making out. Both teams were very even from my view and it could have gone either way.

I wasn't at the game today but managed to listen via Jam radio. The commentary on there and from what I have heard from people at the game it would seem to be more positive than Rob's post. I guess it depends on your own view of the game.

It was a game I thought we could win and one wonders at the end of season how much that loss may hurt us. I hope it doesn't come to that, but I find myself looking at the fixture list trying to pick our possible winnable games.

There is a definite negative air around the club at the moment and two losses are not not helping reverse that. Gary describes the current control as "cutting the cloth" but I feel it's getting cut too much.

We're only 2 games in I know, but how far does it go before something has to give. I hope Marchy can turn it around, but what if we are 5 games in and still without a win? I was surprised at his appointment but I would love to know whether this was a rugby decision or a financial one.

Where was Jones today?

Right let's put things into perspective, no-one knows who/which team we are playing this season, the championship is on its head with what has happened with the twinning with superleague clubs

Who would have thought cougars would be facing Ady Gardner?

Haven with Gardner and Rooney and a host of other names is not a bad team tirade and we played very respectively, the defence was 100% better and not too dissimilar to last year and the attack was better than anything we saw last year at all!

What game were you watching Rob? What exactly is your agenda here?

I do agree with your comments with regards to Barnett, I don't like to single players out bit he is an absolute liability and can think we are only playing him because we are contractually boo d and it would cost us a fortune bot to play him, Marchy if you read this then please do us all a favour!

Gav Duffy and leatherbarrow played well today as did the Cas players and at times we looked to beplaying really
well.

The weather didn't help us but then it didn't help them either, any other week it may have just gone our way

Someone at game said he was at a wedding?

I think we must have been at different games Harry !

I agree with Mr Terraces comments 100%.

Here we go again with these comments of hidden agenda, true fan, loyal fan oh and an axe to grind. These are all the comments that seem to crop up when ever i post something. I love, care and support the club just as much as the next person and like everyone else on here enjoy coming on here to state my opinion or just to have a bit of banter, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that what this site is for. Sometimes I do make mountains out of mole hills but doesn't everybody at some point and yes I also get wound up with some stuff but just because I worked for the club and left doesn't mean that I am plotting anything or have a secret agenda. It is no secret that the directors wouldn't be my first choice of people to sit and have a drink with but I totally respect their decisions that they make with their club and the path they choose to go down with the club. Now this doesn't mean that I agree with everything they do in fact I don't agree with most things but they are the guys putting in their hard earned cash. One thing I will say is a lot of people comment on what they see from the club/directors but I have actually worked closely with these guys and know what type of people they are and seen the way they work and handle things. I will always support and back the club but at the same time I will always have an opinion because that is who I am, if I have something to say I have to say it if it's right or wrong.

What I saw yesterday is what I put in my post and I will stand by that and hopefully in another 5-6 weeks I can openly say sorry that I got it all wrong and Paul March is the best thing since sliced bread but unfortunately I think the Championship could be a step too far for him, I also think that in JD, Korky and Obst we are missing 3 big players and it is showing on the field. This maybe isn't just through them playing but the presence they had on the pitch and how some of the other lads played around them. In my opinion JD was the best coach our club has had since the likes of Phil Larder but at the same time no matter what I think I really hope Marchy can prove me wrong and turn things around.

Hopefully this might make the small handful of people that think I am up to something stop with the petty comments and let me have an opinion just like everyone else, I am not on here to win brownie points or cause trouble.

I have seen the vid after and I think there was some outstanding performances. Whitehaven are a good team and we had it there to be won.

Shick never has a bad game and did what Shick does.
I also thought Gav Duffy put on a massive effort.
For shear commitment to the ball and risk to life and limb Danny Lawton was
our best player.
Paul White had to be our most improved player and for that I am glad he
got some recognition.

I also think we took advantage of the new rules with kicks and they
dam near paid off and we had nothing to loose. Pat on the back for
seeing the opportunities.

I think we missed the accuracy in Danny Jones or Killers boot yesterday.
The kicks just seemed out of touch. It is hard for the quick men to accelerate in the sloppy mud to get on to these.

There was also a couple of dropped balls.

Some people may not be aware that they are having to use a new ball this
season and the dimples are smaller if there at all. The reality is that in wet
weather the water stays on the surface and it is a bit like trying to catch a
bar of soap. Even at super league there has been a lot more drop balls due to
this.

Credit to Cougars they also used feet when necessary and despite the quick
ball we had very few errors of fast kicks.

100% better in attitude, defense and adapting to the conditions.

When Mossy, Jones, Pursglove are back I see us climbing that table.

The Cas players certainly did there part in the effort.

Keep the faith.

Sometimes this forum really does make me laugh with some of the comments Its like been in the school playground all over again. I am not going to get dragged into an argument on here with people even though I feel some are wanting a certain reaction from me, I'm sorry I'm better than that. I feel like a stuck record but I am only stating my opinion which is what everyone else does on here, no I couldn't do better at coaching than Marchy and I have never pretended to do so, I like Paul March as I have spoken to him in person a few times last year when he was a player and I was at the ground. This is nothing personal just an opinion, just so you are aware I have a family member that plays for the team along with a lot of good mates and I tell them what I say on here and they don't react like some on here. Its how life works people agree and disagree, the world would be very dull if we all had the same opinion. As for me and Burleycougar just because we agree with each other does that mean somethings going on, I have numerous members on here agree with me and disagree. I feel its you Mystery that needs to chill out, I know what I saw yesterday and if you were happy with that then thats fine but I wasn't. Yes there was good points but unfortunately I could count them on one hand.

The big reality will kick in in 2 weeks time when we face swinton, we shouldn't just scrape through with a win we should beat them convincingly. I really do mean this now and I hope I am completely wrong and then you can all slate me but lets just see in another 4 weeks time how many more are on here moaning about the games. Does that mean we all have hidden agendas and axes to grind.

I wish paul march and the lads all the best and I really do hope we can turn this around but the games I have seen including the friendlies which yes are hard to judge just doesn't give me any comfort. I lost count the number of times you could have thrown a net over the whole of our team, something just isn't right. They've had plenty of pre-season stuff going on, plenty of time to gell. Unfortunately and paul will know this the coaches job is result driven and if the team isn't performing or winning then its paul as coach that has to stand on the front line.

Oh and mystery "move with the times" I bloody wish the club would

I never said you have hidden agendas in any way or form. Everybody has different opinions on any games, but what i am reading on a lot of post which is between you and also Burleycougar is a little slating on Marchy, Yes we have lost JD, Korki, Obst, but home is where the heart is and to them it was OZ. Like I said earlier, "Dont judge the book by its cover" Not all coaches are the same.
I think its the case of being supportive of the players, and coach too. Ive been through other forums, i dont see very much negatives as there is in this forum!

Couldn't make the match yesterday but sounds like a poor game, we went to Batley and our defence was a disgrace - it sounds like we were the same against Whitehaven. I don't think you can blame Paul March and also the link with Castleford think he will only be trying his best although would this be his decision or would the directors decide this??
Yes the result wasn't what was expected but we all must stick together and get behind the team for next week as that will be tough
I also don't always agree with Robs post but he as a point I think and people I've spoke to that were at the match were saying the feeling was a bit grim

SHOCK HORROR !

Burleycougar and ontheterraces have the same opinion on the coach !!!!

Yes I slated Marchy ,and ?
It's called an opinion , posted on a forum ,a place for people to air thier views and
opinions.... which is what I did,not rocket science is it ?

My opinion being that Marchy is not ready to coach at this level. I hope he proves
me wrong,if he does I will be the first to apologise to him face to face. I wasn't nasty about him
and even praised his work at other clubs in ch1 in another thread.

So , mr mystery please respect other peoples OPINIONS and leave the petty childish
'booty kissing' remarks to yourself please

Hi all, first post on here but been a cougars fan for around 20years.

I think there were a lot of positives to come from yesterday’s game of which in my opinion could have gone either way. Given the conditions it was always going to be a tight scrappy affair for both sides with very little possibility of flowing rugby.

Keighley did not take real advantage of playing down hill first half, but did pressure the opposition on quite a few occasions only to lack the cutting edge of a little grubber kick through. The only real break I recall Whitehaven having for the full game was that where they scored there second try. Compared to the performance at Batley this must be encouraging that breaks of our defensive line were few and far between.

I do agree Richie Barnett had a dismal first half but luckily for us, most of his handling errors were down in there half so didn’t come to much despite the loss of possession. Very poor ability for a winger at championship level. He just seems to lack any motivation & appears to just make the numbers up.

Second half I felt we worked well to get back into the game & if not for a little more patience rather than kicking the ball away, then we could have snuck a win. At first glance & I haven’t seen a replay yet but I felt that Whitehaven’s 3rd try was kicked out by a cougars player before there was any form of grounding but someone may know different.

Duffy had a good break on the left of which was well intercepted by a Whitehaven player, and I thought we were going to sneak a try down the left in the dying minutes if not for a little greediness but all in all I felt there were many positives to take from the performance.

Only things I felt we lacked were a playmaker/positional kicker & a winger to replace Barnett but encouraged compared to the Batley game. Once the dryer periods come then we may see some of the flowing rugby that March has mentioned.

@ Hughesie

You're spot on about 'havens 3rd try , not far from where I was stood

and it was NOT grounded properly.