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| so we didn't have such a good first half but the real question I feel is how much longer can the RFL allow Ronnie Lawton to take charge of any games
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| Dont think Ronnie Lawton had any thing to do with the result as he gave strange discissions to both sides.
We was beaten by a side who wanted to win a lot more than us. We had no urgency today apart from a few including bainsy, craig moss and gav duffy. We didnt have a clue on the kicking game and Workington played to thier strengths.
Now about the Worky fans. At the start of the game it was a godd atmosphere with a lot of worky fans singing and some of the Cougar fans singing back. How ever it changed when they decided to start swaring. IT happened when we went up to their place. But what can you expect when the Workington team come over after the game and start swaring at the top of thier voices.
Any way enough from me lets hope we get to the final n beat em
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| The real question i think we should be asking is..... Will the season ticket holders get some sort of fan loyalty discount for the rochdale game??? i.e ticket holders get in for a fiver or eight as long as they bring there ticket.
As for the game one definatly to forget no positives at all really iam absolutly gutted we didnt win as iam sure we all are but we did'nt look intrested at times in the first half the second half not as bad but left it too late.
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| Was all set for a Laughton bash, but think we have to look closer to home to why we lost. 9 points behind going into the last 10-15 mins, we should have been throwing everything at Workington, but there was a lack of commitment & that has to be questionned. The kicks in the 2nd half were woeful. With the sun in their eyes they should have been high.
Why was it left until the final few minutes before they thought about bringing Wray back on.
A gesture to the fans for next week would be nice by reducing the admission.
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| As a general overview - we didn't turn-up!
We only had one half-back with pace - Ryan Smith. When we moved the ball with pace then we scored BUT, it's like when Woody still used to think that he was a good stand-off (too late in his career) then he lost us more games than he won from that position.
I'm still waiting for Dave Halley to show his 'Super League' credentials. How much longer and how many more tries is he going to concede before we have a winger who shows that he actually wants to play for us? WE must surely have someone better than him on his current and past form. Letting opponents score tries when out of position and skipping into tackles surely isn't what he's paid to do!
JD wasn't up to his usual form - good in parts but he should be playing at loose forward and, if Coleman is as good as JD believes, then he should play at stand-off. You've just got to look at the Warrington and Cataln games this weekend to realise that PACE WINS GAMES. That's how we scored two tries; BUT blundrering down the middle gets us nowhere, especuially when we run straight into thier tackles.
Some 'off-games' all round but Craig Moss, Gavin Duffy and Ryan Smith, in my opinion, can hold their head's up high, as can Jamaine, Buster and one or two others.
We're really up against it now and we surely can't stick with the same team that started today's game! Or can we?
Laughton up to his usual pathetic standard, as was one of the 'assistants'. Better not upset 'Guess Who' though - is he a relation of Ronnie?
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| Quote: 666 "As a general overview - we didn't turn-up!
We only had one half-back with pace - Ryan Smith. When we moved the ball with pace then we scored BUT, it's like when Woody still used to think that he was a good stand-off (too late in his career) then he lost us more games than he won from that position.
I'm still waiting for Dave Halley to show his 'Super League' credentials. How much longer and how many more tries is he going to concede before we have a winger who shows that he actually wants to play for us? WE must surely have someone better than him on his current and past form. Letting opponents score tries when out of position and skipping into tackles surely isn't what he's paid to do!
JD wasn't up to his usual form - good in parts but he should be playing at loose forward and, if Coleman is as good as JD believes, then he should play at stand-off. You've just got to look at the Warrington and Cataln games this weekend to realise that PACE WINS GAMES. That's how we scored two tries; BUT blundrering down the middle gets us nowhere, especuially when we run straight into thier tackles.
Some 'off-games' all round but Craig Moss, Gavin Duffy and Ryan Smith, in my opinion, can hold their head's up high, as can Jamaine, Buster and one or two others.
We're really up against it now and we surely can't stick with the same team that started today's game! Or can we?'"
I have to fully agree with all you have wrote.
Quote: 666 "Laughton up to his usual pathetic standard, as was one of the 'assistants'. Better not upset 'Guess Who' though - is he a relation of Ronnie?'"
Laughton was ok, his young linesman was very,very poor.
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| agree with most of everything above. bad decision on the try, but maybe downward pressure wasn't as obvious as it should have been? dodgy decisions from the ref went both ways.
Workington slowed down a lot of the PTBs giving their defence time to sort themselves out, but the Cougars were too static in attack.
would like to see Hutch back on the left wing. and would also like Law not to have touched the bloody ball today giving away our first set immediately and gifting Workington a set from which they scored.
Duffy wasn't too bad today, but for all his jinking i still don't think he'd get past my mum
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| We should have learnt by now that the negative "Stick it up your Jumper, and trundle forward" style of play will not win you games against the better teams. This has been shown aginst Rochdale, Oldham, Whitehaven twice and probaly a few more that I can't remember. By doing this we make it easy for the defenders and it means we have to dominate for long periods of time to enable our feeble attack to finally cross the line. Also all it takes is one mistake, or bit of adventure from the opposition and all our domination is cancelled out.
If we play like this again next week we will lose as Rochdale have much more flair and pace than us, so just defending and hoping the ten or so points we are cabable of scoring will be enough will mean we fall way short.
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| I think Duffy had a very good game compared to some who looked uninterested , code switch has your mum signed for anyone for next season if shes that good she may be worth a loan signing at least
We must hit the ground running next week and take no prisoners
I need a beer
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| Anyone know why our try was disallowed in the second half? That would have put us in a good position at the time.
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| Well done Worky
They wanted it more
They played to their strengths
They slowed our play the ball - ref didn't ping them once for blatant "not square"
They were good value for their win but the two dis-allowed tries would have put us in front.
We did not seem up for it - some of our players have had promotion and relegation - Do they really want it?
We made too many mistakes and gave them far too much easy field position.
We look much better when we play an expansive game at pace
We need to play a smarter game when we play Rochdale next week but, if we come through we will be the stronger for it.
I hope we get chance to put this right at Warrington.
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| Crap game on a pile of crapness today, our forwards were weak, our passing game slow and poor, our kicking game abysmal, our displine was lacking and we made too many mistakes which lead to tries for the opposition.
I was very disappointed with the Workington fans who started off in lovely spirit and we had good banter but deteriorated towards the end only to be finished off by the team using the "F***ing" words in their celebratery song. Sad day for rugby fans when it starts looking like a footbal crowd.
The Workington fans outnumbered us today in power and voice, looking at the profile of the Workington fans, the majority were 18 - 45 males, something we lack at Keighley Cougar Park where the majority are 60+, and dont want the drum banging thankyou very much. Think Cougars have to attract a younger fanbase so this club may continue into the future.
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| Quote: Dreamer "Well done Worky
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| Quote: 666 "As a general overview - we didn't turn-up!
We only had one half-back with pace - Ryan Smith. When we moved the ball with pace then we scored BUT, it's like when Woody still used to think that he was a good stand-off (too late in his career) then he lost us more games than he won from that position.
I'm still waiting for Dave Halley to show his 'Super League' credentials. How much longer and how many more tries is he going to concede before we have a winger who shows that he actually wants to play for us? WE must surely have someone better than him on his current and past form. Letting opponents score tries when out of position and skipping into tackles surely isn't what he's paid to do!
JD wasn't up to his usual form - good in parts but he should be playing at loose forward and, if Coleman is as good as JD believes, then he should play at stand-off. You've just got to look at the Warrington and Cataln games this weekend to realise that PACE WINS GAMES. That's how we scored two tries; BUT blundrering down the middle gets us nowhere, especuially when we run straight into thier tackles.
Some 'off-games' all round but Craig Moss, Gavin Duffy and Ryan Smith, in my opinion, can hold their head's up high, as can Jamaine, Buster and one or two others.
We're really up against it now and we surely can't stick with the same team that started today's game! Or can we?
Laughton up to his usual pathetic standard, as was one of the 'assistants'. Better not upset 'Guess Who' though - is he a relation of Ronnie?'"
Agree with you. Travelled a long way to watch that today and came away VERY disappointed indeed. The lads just didn't seem to be 'with it'; it looked as if the desire to win just wasn't there. Very sluggish and laboured. You're dead right about how to win games - I watched Wire on Friday night and they were awesome again; fast, passing moves and always looking to keep the ball alive. Yes, there was far too much blunder down the middle today which just played into Workington's hands. A couple of times on the last tackle as we were attacking near their line we just ran into the tacklers and turned it over incredibly cheaply; we didn't even make them work for the possession.
This is a quote from JD in last Thursday's Keighley News, talking about the recent away game at Workington"It was our discipline and ball control that let us down on that occasion and we gave Darren Holt - their half-back - plenty of time on the ball and he went on to kick us to death that day. We have to limit Holt's kicking opportunities to a minimum." He could give that exact same quote about today's game so the lads don't seem to have learnt much from the last meeting. Holt's kicking today severely exposed our kicking game for what it is - non-existant. We simply don't have one.
Gutted
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