FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Keighley Cougars > How low can we go?
29 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach39No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2011Jan 2011LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



We need to create interest within the club and the town.The way to do that is to sign a good ex super league player who probably has a couple of seasons left in him.Someone like a Robbie Paul or a good play maker.People will then start talking about the club and maybe come down to watch the ex superstar.I hear you say "but where will the money come from to pay his wages". Simples,the directors will have to put their hands in their pockets and pay the wages,it happens at other clubs so why cant it happen at Cougar park.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach39No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2011Jan 2011LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I dont think i am missing the point Starbug if success on the field means tipping more money down the black hole then so be it.Being content with what we have is not good enough and we must always be determined to improve. Dont get me wrong Barry has done an excellent job with the squad,but major investment is needed to improve.Its not just on the field,the bar and other areas are very "tired" and the changing rooms are not much better.Its called Continuous Professional Developement.If people dont have the drive and determination to take the club forward and are happy to stay as it is then i;ll give it 2 years.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2855No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
46524.jpg
Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Just walk beside me and be my friend. -Albert Camus:46524.jpg



First and foremost the club needs to sustain itself without the need of cash injections.

If we're losing money, there's 2 ways of dealing with it, raise more money or cut costs.

I don't want us going in to debt ever again, this should be considered a complete no-no by the board wether it to a bank, the taxman, or directors' pockets. I'd rather us be competing with the likes of Doncaster and be a healthy club than go bust because of another deluded pipe dream.

We as fans should ask what can we do for Keighley Cougars? Can we bring another friend to the game, can we dig deep and have 1 more pint in the ground icon_lol.gif.

Personally I think the club needs to think about it's image "brand Keighley Cougars™" so to speak. Get the name out and about, sell fashionable merchandise that people want to buy and would be proud to wear out and about town, advertising the brand to other folk, a shirt with a massive cougar head on it or a fruit of the loom polo shirt with the club badge embroidered on it might have looked good 20 years ago but doesn't now. Find out why people don't come to games, is it because it's too expensive? Is it because they think we're cr*p? Are they disenfranchised after all that's gone on in the past? Is it poor facilities or negative perceptions of the club etc.

Starbug's right, why can't clubs put their on field rivalries to one side and help each other off the field? . If Glasgow Rangers and Celtic (amongst the top 5 biggest arch rivalries in football) can come together to sign a huge shirt sponsorship and kit supply deals I'm sure semi-pro Rugby League clubs can manage it.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner33944No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9005.jpg
kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: wilderbeast "I dont think i am missing the point Starbug if success on the field means tipping more money down the black hole then so be it.Being content with what we have is not good enough and we must always be determined to improve. Dont get me wrong Barry has done an excellent job with the squad,but major investment is needed to improve.Its not just on the field,the bar and other areas are very "tired" and the changing rooms are not much better.Its called Continuous Professional Developement.If people dont have the drive and determination to take the club forward and are happy to stay as it is then i;ll give it 2 years.'"


So you are happy for someone else to ' tip money down a black hole ' for what you call success on the pitch ?

Nobody is suggesting that any club should be ' content with what they have " , but no amount of investment in ' RL ' will achieve anything , you cannot support a sports club with money made from the sport

' Continuous proffessional development '

You still dont understand what it is I am saying

If you have a business that due to changing circumstances can no longer finance itself , what do you do ?

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member2236No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2018Dec 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
simpsons/simp048.gif
I have only been wrong once and thats because I thought I was wrong but I was wrong I was right! Petty authoritarians aren’t man enough to challenge the actions of a person face to face; instead they incite a forum of rumour, innuendo and half truths, and impose rude sanctions to discourage those who dare question fairness. Anon.:simpsons/simp048.gif



Quote: Starbug "If you have a business that due to changing circumstances can no longer finance itself , what do you do ?
'"


Change the nature of the business or go bust!!

As someone has said winning certainly helps, only the money pit becomes bigger.

We need to find ways/methods/reasons that make people want to come to Keighley Cougars and part with cash. Winning is one of those but if it is the only one we will only end up see-sawing up and down ad infinitum.

I actually think the directors have started on this path with their excellent work in the community which appears to be baring fruit already, but we have a very long way to go. The key is surviving the rough bit. We have heard a lot of nice sound bites about future plans but at some point we need action not words.

The Bulls bandwagon was all formed off the back of our success, so because they did not do the original thinking that gave them their rapid success, they struggled to sustain this in adversity. This was aggravated because the clever people that took Cougar Mania and turned it into Bull Mania were poached by others and not replaced with similar quality - oh and they became very complacent - the one thing that kills all businesses.

Cougar Mania II (the cat strikes back) anyone????

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner33944No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9005.jpg
kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Dreamer "Change the nature of the business or go bust!!

As someone has said winning certainly helps, only the money pit becomes bigger.

We need to find ways/methods/reasons that make people want to come to Keighley Cougars and part with cash. Winning is one of those but if it is the only one we will only end up see-sawing up and down ad infinitum.

I actually think the directors have started on this path with their excellent work in the community which appears to be baring fruit already, but we have a very long way to go. The key is surviving the rough bit. We have heard a lot of nice sound bites about future plans but at some point we need action not words.

The Bulls bandwagon was all formed off the back of our success, so because they did not do the original thinking that gave them their rapid success, they struggled to sustain this in adversity. This was aggravated because the clever people that took Cougar Mania and turned it into Bull Mania were poached by others and not replaced with similar quality - oh and they became very complacent - the one thing that kills all businesses.
Cougar Mania II (the cat strikes back) anyone????'"



Now we're getting somewhere

Diversification , 20 years ago a bloke called Ted Moult was on the tv dropping a feather down past a window in a TV ad , the company was Everest double glazing , that company is now Everest home improvements , they sell 20 odd products from garage doors to solar panels

Why dont they still just sell double glazing ? , because if they did they would not be able to make enough money to survive

They have found new products to sell to new and old customers

Problem is that no single club is strong enough or has a big enough profile to be able to sell something else . 20 clubs on the other hand workling together would have enough of a profile and enough support to make it work

As you say , complacency is the death of any business, ' evolve ' or die

29 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
29 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


5.1884765625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wildmoggy
63220
4m
Film game
Wildmoggy
5619
9m
Transfer Talk V5
chapylad
498
12m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
chapylad
7
19m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
27m
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
56m
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
Recent
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
Recent
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Stu M
14
Recent
Fixtures
Willzay
13
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
49s
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
49s
Red Devils sign International forward
His Bobness
2
53s
Fixtures 2025
Ellam
63
56s
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
1m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
1m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
2m
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
2m
War of the Roses
karetaker
29
2m
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
309
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
504
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1255
England's Women Demolish The W..
1081
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1318
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1109
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1364
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1910
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2128
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2372
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1945
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2180
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2647
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2074
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2153