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dressing room bust up is what is being mooted where i have been reading.

It would certainly go with him being brought off against Reading. Where are you reading this?

The thing with Gerrard sounds like the trouble I'm having with Olivier Kapo on FM 2010. Instead of suspending Gerrard though, why not just sack the manager for losing the dressing room instead? It's clear that the few decent players they have want him gone.

Just seen the current premier league table. I find it crazy to believe that, despite us being so bad, we're 4 points off fourth. I know we look more likely to drop points than gain them at the moment, but if we can gain any kind of positive momentum, I still think we'll walk fourth.

one of the united forums tbf.

not long into a long (5 year?) deal, big bucks to get rid.

I heard it on Talksport yesterday morning.Mickey Quinn was on the breakfast show and said he'd been told Gerrard had an argument with one of the backroom staff at half time(can't remember the name of who it was).

pellegrino is what i heard.

Probably because he was one of the last coming from the changing room.

You have to weigh it up with what they stand to lose by keeping a manager who has lost the dressing room and the confidence of the fans and players though. They could lose a lot more. They might not. It's a gamble they're taking either way.

I read it on WACCOE, nowhere to be seen on any sites, just what Mickey Quinn has said.

Until i read he has been suspended from the likes of Sky or BBC i wont pass judgement.

You'll find plenty of City fans expressing exactly the same sentiments. I doubt that many of the fans of the clubs near the top of the table (ie above Birmingham) are that happy with their club's form. All will believe that they can play much better and be more consistent. The race for 4th spot is more interesting than usual but its not due to the quality of football being played.

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The race for 4th shows how lucky Liverpool are as a club. They are terrible, won 6 out of what 20 now? But NONE of the other sides have capitalised on their failure. One of City, Villa and Spurs should be 10 clear of Liverpool by now, but seem hell bent on drawing as many games as possible. It's a shame Everton have had the shambolic run of injuries they have had. 4th was well within reach this season but having no fit defenders for months didn't help.

Liverpool will probably get fourth. They'll use it to paper over the cracks and act like they're contenders.