For fecks sake is this still going?

Thing is, as Lenegan has proved, Whelan isnt the best at running a club anyway so isnt there grounds for saying that, if they get the right person, Wigan Athletic could end up a real force in the future and if they get the right person and the right people then maybe theres a chance they could sort the animosity out for example "20% off if you have a WRLFC" season ticket" etc. Im not from Wigan and I don't support a necessarily local team but I can understand the frustrations of the real fans of both that just want them all to get along for the sake of the town.

Too late now, could have worked if they offered it when we both moved into the JJB, who knows. Are lots of RL fans really intested in watching 20 or so football matches a season though? Im not so sure.

I wouldn't assume all the 1500 of days gone old are "proper" fans, I've said it before and will no doubt say it again, I enjoyed the journey to the Premier League far more than the time spent there. Circumstances change and some us go less now than we did then and arguably talk with more knowledge about the likes of Campbell, Griffiths, Adkins, Skipper and Tankard than any of the current crop.

Glory hunters will of course jump on any bandwagon, but if clubs want to attract more fans were else do they turn? I often wonder for example how many fans we pull in from places like Leigh who have there own side, or people choose us over other rugby alternatives that may be closer to were the actually live, and frankly does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? From a selfish point of view, I'd rather see the sold out signs go up than get snotty about were people come from - that said I don't get the whole "changing teams" melarky in any sport, but each to there own!

I very much get the point put across by others than its odd to celebrate mediocrity, but then I guess its more the battle against adversity, its quiet an achievement on relatively modest budgets etc etc to be staying up for a 7th season.

That said, I do find it funny how the press build up survival as a £40 million game or the initial promotion from the Championship as a £90 million "boost" for the club when all that plus a bit more fly's out in wages.

For those that get annoyed by the likes of Cockney Latic, its easily avoided I've managed to for a good few years now!

In the Hogs Head pub on Deansgate,on the day of the Grand Final,Latics were playing Wolves,there were rugby fans in there shouting for Wolves.

Once upon a time, we used to only get 4-5000. Are you saying the extra 10,000 that showed up in the mid-80s were not "real" fans? Are the extra 5,000 fans we get now compared to 8 years ago not "real" fans?

Our club captain seems quite happy that Latics stayed up

To be fair, how many of those 'extra' fans used to support Leyth or St Helens? It's not really a fair comparison.

Whelan is good at running a club, he just lost interest in us when Latics were on the way up, backed up by Maurice who was well past his sell by. He misread the situation, believing that rugby fans would flock to see a high flying football team, when in fact our gates have increased significantly during Latics' time in the prem.

Exactly, it works both ways. The way people talk on here you would think rugby fans are all angels who have never done anything to cause tics fans to dislike us. A lot of people on both sides need to grow up

Oh dear Martin youve seem to have completely mis-understood my 'beef'...
As Ive said previously I dont really mind the glory hunters as each club has them be that Wigan RL, Tics or any other club.
But these extra Wigan RL fans you point out in your posting, have the vast majority of them supported Stains, Wire or Leeds in the past?

How do you know the vast majority of "new" Latics fans have supported someone else in the past?