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Hats off to Whelan & Co for keeping them up this long, fewer resources than almost every club in the PL but manage to survive season after season. However, its a tight-rope being near the bottom every season, you can only survive so long without going down. What happens when Whelan quits the club, ive been told he already wants to sell, they wouldnt be afloat if it wasnt for the investment that has been put in by Whelan, and continue to post losses which would be worrying as a Latics fan.

I'd personally like Latics to stay up indefinetly, but many of their fans are an embarrasment to say the least with a massive chip on their shoulders towards anything WRL, although some fans on here seem to have caught the same condition though which is sad.

Quote: janort "Long may our town have sports teams competing at the top of their respective games, we still have a Premier League football team and not only a Super League team but Super League Champions. Tremendous for the town.'"


Yeh i agree, sporting achievements have put Wigan back on the map, literally.

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When Maurice sold me to Leeds something changed, it just not the same, the passion inside me just wasn’t the same as running out at Central park for my hometown club. We need a change of culture here; we don’t want to be just happy with playing ok on Saturday at St Helens. Ill make sure that from now on things will change, that players will be under pressure and will train a lot harder than they have before. Shaun Wane 8/10/09 "WE HAVE ACHIEVED WHAT YOU CAN ONLY EVER DREAM OF" WIGAN RLFC The Mirror 30/10/09 How the Premier League table would look if teams were awarded points for famous fans... 20th: Wigan The Latics don't have any fans, yet alone any famous ones.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29281.jpg



For fecks sake is this still going?

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Quote: shambawangy "Hats off to Whelan & Co for keeping them up this long, fewer resources than almost every club in the PL but manage to survive season after season. However, its a tight-rope being near the bottom every season, you can only survive so long without going down. What happens when Whelan quits the club, ive been told he already wants to sell, they wouldnt be afloat if it wasnt for the investment that has been put in by Whelan, and continue to post losses which would be worrying as a Latics fan.

I'd personally like Latics to stay up indefinetly, but many of their fans are an embarrasment to say the least with a massive chip on their shoulders towards anything WRL, although some fans on here seem to have caught the same condition though which is sad.

Yeh i agree, sporting achievements have put Wigan back on the map, literally.'"


Thing is, as Lenegan has proved, Whelan isnt the best at running a club anyway so isnt there grounds for saying that, if they get the right person, Wigan Athletic could end up a real force in the future and if they get the right person and the right people then maybe theres a chance they could sort the animosity out for example "20% off if you have a WRLFC" season ticket" etc. Im not from Wigan and I don't support a necessarily local team but I can understand the frustrations of the real fans of both that just want them all to get along for the sake of the town.

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Quote: hula89 "if they get the right person and the right people then maybe theres a chance they could sort the animosity out for example "20% off if you have a WRLFC" season ticket" etc. Im not from Wigan and I don't support a necessarily local team but I can understand the frustrations of the real fans of both that just want them all to get along for the sake of the town.'"


Too late now, could have worked if they offered it when we both moved into the JJB, who knows. Are lots of RL fans really intested in watching 20 or so football matches a season though? Im not so sure.

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I wouldn't assume all the 1500 of days gone old are "proper" fans, I've said it before and will no doubt say it again, I enjoyed the journey to the Premier League far more than the time spent there. Circumstances change and some us go less now than we did then and arguably talk with more knowledge about the likes of Campbell, Griffiths, Adkins, Skipper and Tankard than any of the current crop.

Glory hunters will of course jump on any bandwagon, but if clubs want to attract more fans were else do they turn? I often wonder for example how many fans we pull in from places like Leigh who have there own side, or people choose us over other rugby alternatives that may be closer to were the actually live, and frankly does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? From a selfish point of view, I'd rather see the sold out signs go up than get snotty about were people come from - that said I don't get the whole "changing teams" melarky in any sport, but each to there own!

I very much get the point put across by others than its odd to celebrate mediocrity, but then I guess its more the battle against adversity, its quiet an achievement on relatively modest budgets etc etc to be staying up for a 7th season.

That said, I do find it funny how the press build up survival as a £40 million game or the initial promotion from the Championship as a £90 million "boost" for the club when all that plus a bit more fly's out in wages.

For those that get annoyed by the likes of Cockney Latic, its easily avoided I've managed to for a good few years now! icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: --[ WW ]-- "--"Agreed. I think that there is more than one or two that bad mouth the rugby. I remember years ago, before they got in the prem, going to a latics match and hearing the chants of "if you hate Wigan rugby clap your hands", but then we sing "fu** the latics" in one of our songs, so it's a bot pot/kettle for us to say we hate them for saying nasty things about us
In the Hogs Head pub on Deansgate,on the day of the Grand Final,Latics were playing Wolves,there were rugby fans in there shouting for Wolves.

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Quote: Owdpopularsider "When you say majority of their fans do you mean the real fans ie 1500 that watched in the dark days? If so im with you, Or the thousands or cretins that woke up on 9th May 2005 and if by magic turned from a Utd/scouse fans into a 'true blue 25 year supporting five knuckle shuffler' then I dissagree completely........'"


Once upon a time, we used to only get 4-5000. Are you saying the extra 10,000 that showed up in the mid-80s were not "real" fans? Are the extra 5,000 fans we get now compared to 8 years ago not "real" fans?

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Our club captain seems quite happy that Latics stayed up

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Quote: martinbuckley "Once upon a time, we used to only get 4-5000. Are you saying the extra 10,000 that showed up in the mid-80s were not "real" fans? Are the extra 5,000 fans we get now compared to 8 years ago not "real" fans?'"

To be fair, how many of those 'extra' fans used to support Leyth or St Helens? It's not really a fair comparison.

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Quote: hula89 "Thing is, as Lenegan has proved, Whelan isnt the best at running a club anyway '"


Whelan is good at running a club, he just lost interest in us when Latics were on the way up, backed up by Maurice who was well past his sell by. He misread the situation, believing that rugby fans would flock to see a high flying football team, when in fact our gates have increased significantly during Latics' time in the prem.

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Quote: ince mon "In the Hogs Head pub on Deansgate,on the day of the Grand Final,Latics were playing Wolves,there were rugby fans in there shouting for Wolves.'"



Exactly, it works both ways. The way people talk on here you would think rugby fans are all angels who have never done anything to cause tics fans to dislike us. A lot of people on both sides need to grow up

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When Maurice sold me to Leeds something changed, it just not the same, the passion inside me just wasn’t the same as running out at Central park for my hometown club. We need a change of culture here; we don’t want to be just happy with playing ok on Saturday at St Helens. Ill make sure that from now on things will change, that players will be under pressure and will train a lot harder than they have before. Shaun Wane 8/10/09 "WE HAVE ACHIEVED WHAT YOU CAN ONLY EVER DREAM OF" WIGAN RLFC The Mirror 30/10/09 How the Premier League table would look if teams were awarded points for famous fans... 20th: Wigan The Latics don't have any fans, yet alone any famous ones.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29281.jpg



Quote: martinbuckley "Once upon a time, we used to only get 4-5000. Are you saying the extra 10,000 that showed up in the mid-80s were not "real" fans? Are the extra 5,000 fans we get now compared to 8 years ago not "real" fans?'"


Oh dear Martin youve seem to have completely mis-understood my 'beef'...
As Ive said previously I dont really mind the glory hunters as each club has them be that Wigan RL, Tics or any other club.
But these extra Wigan RL fans you point out in your posting, have the vast majority of them supported Stains, Wire or Leeds in the past?

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Quote: Owdpopularsider "Oh dear Martin youve seem to have completely mis-understood my 'beef'...
As Ive said previously I dont really mind the glory hunters as each club has them be that Wigan RL, Tics or any other club.
But these extra Wigan RL fans you point out in your posting, have the vast majority of them supported Stains, Wire or Leeds in the past?'"


How do you know the vast majority of "new" Latics fans have supported someone else in the past?

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Quote: Owdpopularsider "Oh dear Martin youve seem to have completely mis-understood my 'beef'...
As Ive said previously I dont really mind the glory hunters as each club has them be that Wigan RL, Tics or any other club.
But these extra Wigan RL fans you point out in your posting, have the vast majority of them supported Stains, Wire or Leeds in the past?'"


You can't compare the 2. Wigan RL have always been a big club. When I was at school a lot of kids supported Latics half heartedly, and also supported a Premier League team, because when you're 10 you don't give a $hit about the lower leagues, not many people give a toss full stop, and everyone wants to support one of the big clubs with all the glamour and coverage that the Premiership has. Obviously when they made it big (ish) those people who supported Latics and also had a "big club" went full time with Latics

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When Maurice sold me to Leeds something changed, it just not the same, the passion inside me just wasn’t the same as running out at Central park for my hometown club. We need a change of culture here; we don’t want to be just happy with playing ok on Saturday at St Helens. Ill make sure that from now on things will change, that players will be under pressure and will train a lot harder than they have before. Shaun Wane 8/10/09 "WE HAVE ACHIEVED WHAT YOU CAN ONLY EVER DREAM OF" WIGAN RLFC The Mirror 30/10/09 How the Premier League table would look if teams were awarded points for famous fans... 20th: Wigan The Latics don't have any fans, yet alone any famous ones.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29281.jpg



Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "How do you know the vast majority of new Latics fans have supported someone else in the past?'"


OFFS Andy have you no mucktags to pick off?

I can only go off my experience, Since 1990 Ive worked in 3 workplaces around this town with a combined workforce of approx 2100 staff. Of these 2100 people I can only remember around 15 that I can geniunley say didn't support any other club but Tics. I can tell you now, I could probably x20 the amount of people that now claim to watch TICS on a regular bases that we all knew had done a chameleon like change. Come 2005 people that I knew previously had supported UTD, scouse teams (even adorning the red devils/liver birds tatoo). The vast majority of Tics fans I know HAVE supported other teams in the past.
Having got to know the staff over a 21 year period I could even write down a list of tics fans with past alligences.

Im pretty sure other Wigan RL fans will concur with my experience, and have very similar examples.

Once again Andy I fail to see how somebody that doesnt live in the town can comment on the issue Ive brought up.

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