Cav gone to OPQS

On the cards really given Sky's real targets.
Did Cav have to buy himself out or did they pay the compensation for him, haven't checked the news yet?

Rabobank: gone

Seems to have been released free.

Re Rabobank. With Leontien.nl going as well, that's the two strongest womens teams no longer in the peloton.

So Rabobank gone......what did I say on the previous page?

I await the UCI announcement on Monday.

But announced today that his buddy Eisel is staying at Sky.

Sadly the current crop are being punished for what happened 10-15 years ago, whether guilty or not. You can understand the standpoint from the sponsors POV but this is absolutely not the way to encourage people to speak out now. We'll be back to square one before you know it if we're not careful.

If it did go back to square one would that be a bad thing?

Doping at the levels we saw at US Postal may be behind us but those guys from that era are now DS's and Team Managers. Dopers managing riders!

The UCI are still here with no idea what to do who played a part in the lies.

Rabobank are honoring next season's contracts , but will not be associated. So will be wearing plain white jerseys with no advertising.

Also rumour is that skoda are reducing their commitment.

Last night was the livestrong anniversary. Lance told the crowd its been a tough 2 weeks. He's had better and he's definitely had worse.

Now I know the chance of dying from cancer is classes as bad, but to me its almost as if he's saying so what if I cheated. Compared to cancer its small beans.

The continued arrogance and refusal to accept any responsibility is disgusting. Especially I. View of the lives that will be destroyed as sponsors take away thei money from the now heavily tainted sport.

There's an article by Gesink on the cycling news website that really puts the impact of this into perspective.

I understand your point, but put into context, considering he was at the Livestrong Foundation anniversary, and not there to defend himself, I think that's a reasonable thing to say.

I agree that outside that environment his attitude probably wouldn't change too much but I don't think too much can be read into him addressing that particular crowd.

I don't know too much about Livestrong. I know they do something but I couldn't tell you what they do other than giving people with cancer hope. The hope that Lance Armstrong gave people was that he got off his death bed and went on to win the Tour de France 7 times.

That is why the wrist bands are yellow. That is why their branding has yellow in it.

What on earth does Livestrong do now seeing as their poster boy got off his death bed and didn't win the Tour de France 7 times? What happens when people start asking whether his doping regime contributed to the cancer in the first place?

Do the worldwide community care about his doping? I don't live in the USA but what are Americans saying? Sure Nike and Trek have dropped him but he was of no longer any use to them anyway. Lance Armstrong had stopped selling bikes for Trek a few years ago.

The best thing Lance can do for Livestrong is to clear out of the way and let them define what kind or organisation they want to be in the future.

The best thing Lance is likely to do is to shut up and disappear . The best thing he should do is to come clean but if he does that then he will end up in jail having previously sworn in front of a grand jury that he didn't dope.

Froome saying it's Wiggins for the Giro and him for the Tour next year

Not seen that but did see Porte saying he wanted to ride on Wiggins' team whether that was Giro or Tour.

Interesting that Richie doesn't want to ride for Froomedog.

Well go on I'll say it

YEHAAAA jesters dead! That's it the big Texan cheat has been pushed out of cycling forever.

GOOD RIDDANCE!