That must surely be the end of the road for him at City. Incredibly skilful but, even if he had the right attitude, he's just too frail for the Premier League. Plenty of small players have been successful, but usually they've had pace to make up for their lack of stature. Robinho isnt slow but he's not lightening quick and he's just too easily eased off the ball.

Yesterday's performance by City was on a par with that at Spurs. It will be interesting to see how Mancini responds.

If you need proof of Rafa not having a clue look at his teamsheet yesterday. Degen and Aurelio outwide? 6 defenders starting?

Riera on the bench, Babel left out completely.

To be fair. We were winning playing like that, it was when the more offensive players came on where we lost it. The line up was poor, but the only other options we had were Riera and Rodriguez. Rodriguez has been here a matter of days whilst Riera is coming back from injury, away at Stoke isn't the best game to come back from. We had Babel but I can only guess that he will be sold in January and that's why he didn't travel.

Could have played Maxi as well. Drop lucas and put Aquilani in. Far more positive.

Where are the Newcastle fans who said "Milner is crap " and were made up when they sold him?

Busy looking over their shoulders at Billy Davies' Red army

Starting with Lucas over Aquilani begars belief. Maybe a bit too early for Maxi in fairness.

I'm unsure why he played Lucas, but, it's clear Aquilani isn't fit enough yet to be starting two games in the space of three days, especially after 120 minutes against Reading. He is fragile and it's like he's going through his pre-season at the moment, I thought it was pretty understandable that he didn't play away at Stoke, Lucas played pretty well and after 120 minutes midweek, a kicking at the Britannia wouldn't be the best way to build fitness.

Although the line up was pretty poor, we were winning the match and playing better than Stoke, but, like always, one set piece snatches the points out of our grasp. Yesterday, the problem wasn't the line up, it was our fragile mentality and our inability to put the game away. We weren't clinical and were very wasteful.

Currently sitting top of the league with Leverkusen who remain unbeaten so far.

Class player. Renato Augusto for them looks quality!

If you get a chance try and catch the second half of Barcelona - Sevilla from last night.

Good, yes, but physically fragile. I'm a big fan of Tranquilo Barnetta. He's having a wow of a season as is Toni Kroos.

Gary Linekar is suggesting the £20 million spent on Aguilani was the biggest waste of money recently. I beg to differ. There are plenty of flops we could go on about all day but Robinho has to be up there with worst of all time. Sullen, lazy and not up to premiership physicality.

Fabregas diving who'da thunk it?