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Quote: Robbie Rotten "Pretty lazy from Lineker, he can have his own opinion but he's just stirring.

As for Jones, fingers crossed it isn't true. I've never rated him, although I'd like to get rid of Babel, Jones wouldn't strike me as a good replacement.'"


Agree with you on both counts. Where would you like to see Liverpool strengthen?
Is it true that Hyypia is playin in the Bundesliga? Why on earth was he allowed to leave if the best you could replace him with was Kyrgiakos?

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Quote: Catalancs "Agree with you on both counts. Where would you like to see Liverpool strengthen?
Is it true that Hyypia is playin in the Bundesliga? Why on earth was he allowed to leave if the best you could replace him with was Kyrgiakos?'"



Hyypia's playing well. Last time I looked at the bundesliga table, which was a few months back, Leverkusen had the best defence in the league. I think Hyypia was allowed to leave because the club only wanted to give him a year extension, whilst Leverkusen had offered two years. Naturally, Hyypia accepted the challenge and we wished him well. Was gutted to be honest, he wasn't quick but the fella was so underrated. I think Rafa hoped a better replacement was available, we made moves for Shawcross and Turner but the board wouldn't finance such moves.

Where would I like to see us strengthen? I don't think January is the time to do it, but, if we're after a quick fix, a striker is needed, but not somebody like Jones who I don't think is good enough. The Echo says we're close to agreeing a deal for Chamakh, but that won't be until the summer so we're still lacking something. Ideally, Babel would step up to the plate and we wouldn't need anybody, but that won't happen so I'd like to get a striker who could possibly play out wide. I'd like to see Nemeth brought back from his loan, too. However, come the summer, I'd like to see a massive clear out. Kyrgiakos, Degen, Kuyt, Lucas, Babel, maybe even Riera, I'd like to see leave. Problem is, unless the owners dip into their own pockets, then I can't see how the club could possibly strengthen on those positions.

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Quote: Robbie Rotten "Hyypia's playing well. Last time I looked at the bundesliga table, which was a few months back, Leverkusen had the best defence in the league. I think Hyypia was allowed to leave because the club only wanted to give him a year extension, whilst Leverkusen had offered two years. Naturally, Hyypia accepted the challenge and we wished him well. Was gutted to be honest, he wasn't quick but the fella was so underrated.'"

One of the better Premier League defenders in my opinion.

Quote: Robbie Rotten "Where would I like to see us strengthen? I don't think January is the time to do it, but, if we're after a quick fix, a striker is needed, but not somebody like Jones who I don't think is good enough. The Echo says we're close to agreeing a deal for Chamakh, but that won't be until the summer so we're still lacking something. Ideally, Babel would step up to the plate and we wouldn't need anybody, but that won't happen so I'd like to get a striker who could possibly play out wide. I'd like to see Nemeth brought back from his loan, too. However, come the summer, I'd like to see a massive clear out. Kyrgiakos, Degen, Kuyt, Lucas, Babel, maybe even Riera, I'd like to see leave. Problem is, unless the owners dip into their own pockets, then I can't see how the club could possibly strengthen on those positions.'"

Wouldn't go out of my way to hold on to any of those players. Aren't they all Benitez buys?
What about N'gog? When will Pacheco get a run?

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Quote: Catalancs "One of the better Premier League defenders in my opinion.

Wouldn't go out of my way to hold on to any of those players. Aren't they all Benitez buys?
What about N'gog? When will Pacheco get a run?'"


N'Gog I actually like and I feel he gets some harsh criticism from non-Liverpool supporters. When he's asked to do a job like today, to lead the line on his own, have no support and no help, he'll struggle. He's still lightweight, he's inconsistent and he needs help if he's to make it. However, against other sides he's impressed, he's shown he has decent touch and skill, as well as quality shooting ability with either foot. If he can add strength and power to his game, he'll easily be good enough.

As for Pacheco, well, he's definitely lightweight but he definitely has the ability. It's hard to predict with Rafa as he could just throw him in like he did with Insua, or he could keep him wrapped up in cotton wool all season. Hopefully it's sooner rather than later.

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The problem with Liverpool is they need to strengthen in practically every area apart from the goalkeeper and they have little funds to do it.

They need a quality left back. Aurelio is decent, but inconsistent and Insua is the slowest player I've seen for years. They need a good back up Centre Half. Agger and Carragher are a good pairing, but Agger seems to be injured alot. Skrtel is average IMO.

In midfield they are desperately short of creativity. They need two quality wide players (although Maxi could solve one of those positions) and someone who can control the game from the middle of the park like Alonso did. Gerrard could probably fill that role to be fair, but only if they played a 4-4-2, which of course would require a new striker to partner Torres.

After that they are criminally short of depth and there isn't alot coming through the academy apart from the odd one or two.

Players like Degen, Insua, Lucas, Babel, Kyriagkos and Skrtel simply aren't good enough to be Liverpool players.

Liverpool need rebuilding from bottom to top if they are to compete with United, Chelsea and Arsenal. They need some serious investment and they need the stadium issue to be resolved.

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Quote: Blobbynator "Liverpool need rebuilding from bottom to top if they are to compete with United, Chelsea and Arsenal. They need some serious investment and they need the stadium issue to be resolved.'"


I agree. At least £100m on top of player sales is what we need. I think your criticism of Skrtel is harsh. Since he's arrived here, he's been our best defender. He's struggled this season but for me, he's still a fantastic player who's just struggling for form. Agger and Skrtel could easily be our defensive partnership for the next 5 years if they stay here.

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Quote: Robbie Rotten "As for Jones, fingers crossed it isn't true. I've never rated him, although I'd like to get rid of Babel, Jones wouldn't strike me as a good replacement.'"


Sounded pretty much a done deal if you listened to the commentary on City today? They were all very positive about it as well. Alridge commenting, "Hopefully they can get rid of a few more of them" icon_lol.gif

They mentioned Deggen today, saying he's "Just not a Liverpool player".

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Bo Myhill - best 'keeping display of the season so far a014.gif

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For liverpool fans moaning about the non penalty for the lucas tackle, the free kick that led to your goal wasn't a free kick. A great show from everton as well. I remember a lengthy discussion a year ago bout robinho being one of the best in the world, wonder if the view is the same.

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Robinho isn't even the best player in Manchester City's reserves.

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Quote: Sexual Deviant "Bo Myhill - best 'keeping display of the season so far
Indeed. Earned Hull a point almost single-handedly.

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Quote: Wanderer "Indeed. Earned Hull a point almost single-handedly.'"


I don't know. He did use the other one now and again.

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Quote: Blobbynator "The problem with Liverpool is they need to strengthen in practically every area apart from the goalkeeper and they have little funds to do it.

They need a quality left back. Aurelio is decent, but inconsistent and Insua is the slowest player I've seen for years. They need a good back up Centre Half. Agger and Carragher are a good pairing, but Agger seems to be injured alot. Skrtel is average IMO.

In midfield they are desperately short of creativity. They need two quality wide players (although Maxi could solve one of those positions) and someone who can control the game from the middle of the park like Alonso did. Gerrard could probably fill that role to be fair, but only if they played a 4-4-2, which of course would require a new striker to partner Torres.

After that they are criminally short of depth and there isn't alot coming through the academy apart from the odd one or two.

Players like Degen, Insua, Lucas, Babel, Kyriagkos and Skrtel simply aren't good enough to be Liverpool players.

Liverpool need rebuilding from bottom to top if they are to compete with United, Chelsea and Arsenal. They need some serious investment and they need the stadium issue to be resolved.'"


Don't forget Glen Johnson too. According to most people on here, he is utter e.

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Quote: WireFanatic II "Don't forget Glen Johnson too. According to most people on here, he is utter poop.'"


I like Johnson, he's been unlucky with injuries at Liverpool to be fair to him.

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15:00
Hull KR
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Huddersfield
 Sun 18th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
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v
Warrington
17:30
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Salford
 Thu 22nd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
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v
Hull FC
 Fri 23rd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
Hull KR
 Sat 24th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
14:30
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v
Leeds
17:30
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Wigan
 Sun 25th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
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v
Salford
 Thu 29th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
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Leigh
 Fri 30th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Hull KR
v
St.Helens
20:00
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v
Wigan
 Sat 31st May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
14:30
Leeds
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Wakefield
17:30
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sun 1st Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
15:00
Warrington
v
Castleford
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Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
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14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
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SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
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17:30
Catalans-Leeds
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Wigan-Huddersfield
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Salford-Huddersfield
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St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
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