They'd drop a fair bit.

Say I had a 5/1 and 5/1 double that would be 25/1 but the place double at 1/5 the odds would be evs and evs.

It depends on the prices and the place terms but 5/1, 5/1, 8/1 treble will pay a good bit more than evs, evs, 2/1 which would be the odds if they were 1/5, 1/5 and 1/4 the odds.

That's a bit insulting to suggest i didn't know that.

This morning i took odds of 7/4, 6/4 and 3/1 Winners, 5/4 2nd and 5/2 still to run.

As always Mart, clear as f**k

£13.16 if your last one wins or is placed, LWF.
£1.05 likewise Invincible.

Slightly more if any races were 1/4 the odds a place; slightly less if there's a rule 4 on the 2.10 at Exeter.

Im not great on adding up odds on accumultors and Lucky 15's ect, but id be very disappointed with £13.16, ill check back and let you know what i end up with later.

That's if the last horse keeps upright.

have a look on william hills etc for there bet calculator very helpful

Well that's what I make it - you've effectively got an accumulator at the following odds (assuming 1/5 a place): 7/20, 3/10, 3/5, 1/4 and 1/2.

It's £13.16 - sorry to disappoint you.

Apologies if it came across that way it wasn't meant to.

Only need the place odds - it doesn't matter if you had 50 horses and 49 won and one placed the acca is for ALL horses to win or ALL to place. Equally if you had 49 winners and 1 come last there'd be no return on the bet



For a guaranteed return on the three winners the Yankee would be a better bet for 4 selections or a Canadian for 5 or a Heinz for 6.

Carnivore (6.50 Kempton) last of six unfortunately.

Do bookies still take "eachway all eachway" bets? These work out better if you've a double and only one wins.
Tried to place one in an independent Sarf Landan turf accountants many years back - Granville Again and Young Ernie (both won, ironically). Was told that "we can't have that, mate, it's a northern bet". LOL.

They do - fook knows how they work - we don't take them anyway



I know it's an ATC bet but that's about it tbh

Example;

£1 each way all each way treble
Winner 4/1 1/5 odds
Placed 6/1 1/5 odds
Winner 5/2 1/5 odds

1st leg (£1 each way) returns £6.80
this return is split equally each way
2nd leg (£3.40 each way) returns £7.48
this return is split equally each way
3rd leg (£3.74 each way) returns £18.70

The same each way treble (win to win, place to place) would work as follows;

Win part = Loser
Place part £1 treble 4/5, 6/5, 1/2 = £5.94

Each way all each way works better if you have some winners but not all.
If all are winners win to win, place to place produces a significantly greater return.

HTH.