I can't be doing with the skins or facepacks, within 10 seasons they are all regens anyway so the FP are pretty much redundant.

I do like the Dark Skin though.

How many wonderkids have you got/had in your squads?

Ive got 8, in my 31 man squad. Hoping to have 2 more turn into wonderkids soon too.

what does everyone think of FM13 so far?

Very very long shot but......

Just started playing fm08 again (the best one) but have no kits or logos anymore ...... Can find premiership kits and logos but having a he'll of a job finding championship, league one etc...

Anyone any ideas ???

Got it the other day. Initial impressions; very hard. Taking a while to get used to the new training layout as well as the tactics layout. Will probably keep an eye on the boards for a training regime to download as I must admit, I am stumped with what to do at the moment.

Who have you gone with? I have started 2 games; one with Everton and one with Red Star Paris. Both, I am doing pretty badly at...

Got two games going at the minute, one as Leeds United in the full mode (very tough and not much cash) and got a game as Guiseley in the Blue Square North in the classic mode which is alright

Really not impressed with the new training regime, but everything else about the new FM is better I think. I've taken Hull City to the Champions League in 3 seasons, so I'm not finding it too tricky, expectations are up this season though so we'll see how it goes.

I tried a game on that challenge mode, the skin is absolutely shocking though, and it just seemed a waste of time playing on there so when I fancy a change I'll make a new save.

Coming up to the end of my 2nd game with Everton. I started with Red Star Paris in the French National, but with a wage budget of £20kpw it is near impossible, so started my Everton game to get into it, get a tactic etc.

The training isn't as in-depth as it was in FM11 (the last one I played), so I went into the season undercooked fitness wise. Corrected that now, and have found a tactic on FM-Base that works pretty well with Everton. 4-3-1-2 with Wingbacks. Signed Jores Okore who is immense, and a bargain at £1.5m, and Wilfred Zaha for £5m. Got a German kid called Stefan Bell coming in in January. In the summer I really need another striker or 2. Zaha has done well, but is only young. Jelavic has been pretty decent, but has suffered from a few injuries and neither Miralles or Naismith have done much yet.

Currently 4th though, was top after destroying Chelsea 4-1, but defeats at City and at home to Wigan (annoying) have dampened my spirits somewhat.

So mad, feel like throwing the game in the bin.

Downloaded the steam update so thought great, no need to be as cautious with saves.

Got on a good run, won the game 2-0, but likely because one of my players was sent off in added time it has had a funny do and will not let me exit the match. I cannot find any possible way to exit. The screen just keeps showing the stadium at the end of the match.

Fuming, I've wasted all fcking night!
Only option I have is to quit and exit, pig sick.

Set pieces are a joke as well. Had 'defending set pieces' on high and assigned all my players with logical roles yet we still concede sloppy goals from corners and free kicks pretty much every game.

I've got to think point of thinking 'oh sh&t' before the taker has even played the ball.

Quirks like that happen in real life too though.

Not consistently over a dozen games against inferior opposition.

If their wingers get a cross into the box we put as many own goals in as they score past us.

bloody hate this game, so infuriating.

back to fm11 for me.