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| Quote: McClennan "I'm not sure if they happily accepted it because I don't think you can always take what somebody says at face value. There's value in them suggesting he was the better fighter and a re-match is a must. It's all part of the game and has been since its inception. Are you suggesting that he should have won the fight because I didn't really feel he did enough to win. I'm in the camp that says you have to take the crown off the champion in boxing. It's not enough to turn up and snatch it, you have to show that you are the champion. It's the same in the UK where boxers have gotten ropey decisions because they are the homer or the champion. If you're going to win the championship in the champ's own backyard you have to do a bit more than what Murray did last week.'"
I'd go along with this.....There were far too many close rounds for Murray to get the win - The nature of boxing scoring, is that a judge will often side with the home fighter or champ (in this case, Sturm was both!).
Murray's problem was that in the last 3 or 4 rounds when he should have been really going for it, he seemed content to stand and take Sturm's sporadic attacks, throwing little back....These attacks would have give the judges ample reason to award Sturm the round.
Also, while Murray's attacks looked the more impressive, they were thrown in irregular patches and, as a challenger, he needed to be putting more into the rounds.
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "Khan-Peterson is an interesting match, apart from Bradley its the hardest fight for Khan at light-welter.
Murray just hasn't got the power to fight the way he does. He will give any lightweight in the world a good fight for a few rounds (I thought the fight was pretty close after 5 or 6 rounds). But once his opponent realises he can just walk through him its all over. I'd like to see Mitchell fight Rios I think that would be a good fight and I'd give Mitchell a good chance. Rios isn't that great although I doubt we'll see Rios fight at 135lbs again.'"
think maidana is the hardest fight for khan at light welter after bradley... he was out on his feet against maidana but showed great heart...fight of the year!!!! will we see it again?? nope because khan wont take that risk again...like with prescott.
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| Quote: brearley84 "think maidana is the hardest fight for khan at light welter after bradley... he was out on his feet against maidana but showed great heart...fight of the year!!!! will we see it again?? nope because khan wont take that risk again...like with prescott.'"
Khan would demolish Prescott if they fought again.
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| Quote: Blobbynator "Khan would demolish Prescott if they fought again.'"
Couldn't agree more - Prescott is a fighter who seemed to be destined for the top with his devastating power, but now looks pretty average at best. McCloskey is never going to be a top fighter and still beat him.
Khan's decent and should win handsomely against Peterson, but this incessant need to call out Mayweather is laughable. Mayweather would destroy him and I would love every minute of it.
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| Martin Murray is in talks to fight Andy Lee (Irish middleweight, trained by Manny Steward) on the undercard of Martinez-Macklin on March 17th at MSG. Not a bad card so far.
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| Quote: Blobbynator "Khan would demolish Prescott if they fought again.'"
not if he got caught again by prescott....but hey we wont see it khan wont risk that again
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| Quote: brearley84 "not if he got caught again by prescott....but hey we wont see it khan wont risk that again'"
I think its fair to say that Prescott's win over Khan was one of those fluke results in Boxing that simply happens and what makes the sport so exciting.
Khan would demolish Prescott 9 times out of 10, he got beat by him on that one odd occasion, when the combination of complacency and bad tactics led to him being ko'd.
I remember Lennox Lewis being ko'd by McCall and Rahman in similar fashion to Khan's defeat, yet I don't think anybody would say that either of those guys were anywhere close to Lewis in terms of boxing ability....Which Lewis proved in both re-matches with those guys - Khan would do similar to Prescott in a re-match.
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| wouldnt you like to see him fight maidana again instead of just watching a one sided affair v peterson?
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| Quote: brearley84 "yes very sad to watch... dont think they can blame the ref.. mclennans coach sounds like hes taken a few punches in his time and he was the worst for the blaming!
benn fainting after the fight?'"
One of the few things in the documentary I disagreed with was the referee saying it wasn't his responsibility to pull the fighters out. Sorry, but that's exactly his job. Of course his corner share that responsibility, but all refs have a duty of care to the fighters.
Saying that, a fantastic documentary that put me through a whole range of emotions, exactly what programmes like this should do.
There's an extended version on ITV4 this week, Tuesday I think, and I'd urge anybody with any interest in boxing to watch it.
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| Quote: Lord_Percy "One of the few things in the documentary I disagreed with was the referee saying it wasn't his responsibility to pull the fighters out. Sorry, but that's exactly his job. Of course his corner share that responsibility, but all refs have a duty of care to the fighters.
Saying that, a fantastic documentary that put me through a whole range of emotions, exactly what programmes like this should do.
There's an extended version on ITV4 this week, Tuesday I think, and I'd urge anybody with any interest in boxing to watch it.'"
8pm tuesday! recording it.
why would the ref of stopped it.... because he was blinking? hows he not to know its just what mclennan does..will of never seen him before
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| Khan done by the worst refereeing display I've witnessed in a good few years.....I wonder how much that guy recieved from the hometown team in order to come up with that show.
Points taken off for no reason, constant badgering of Khan throughout the fight, despite Peterson lead with his head for 12 rounds, the ref was even reluctant to give the knockdowns in the first round.
Shocking.....Khan can come back, he just needs to learn that an Asian/Brit fighting in the US isn't going to get many favours from the officials or judges....I still had Khan ahead despite the points deductions, though I accept that is open to interpretation.
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| well well well khan cant even get past a guy like peterson!
if it wasnt for the two points deductions then he would of won but then again khan did get a knockdown in the first round that wasnt a knockdown
he took the risk of going into the guys backyard and it has backfired big time.
for once a guy who actually looks as big as khan in the ring too.... think talk of moving up to welterweight will find him out again, not even cleared up the light division yet!
they say never look past your next opponent but all khan could think about was mayweather.
think khan will win the rematch, would like to see it in england but will most likely be vegas
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| Quote: brearley84 "
if it wasnt for the two points deductions then he would of won but then again khan did get a knockdown in the first round that wasnt a knockdown
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...Are you for real??.....He actually put him down twice, but the incompetent/cheating ref was trying his hardest to ignore it, eventually having to make a reluctant count the second time...
I don't think this defeat damages Khan one bit...In fact, it gives him the kick up the backside that his arrogance will occasionally need....The fact he was in another barnstormer will only increase his box office appeal stateside - He will just be more wary of where to fight his opponents in future....Let's face it, had last night's fight been anywhere but Washington, he'd have got the decision with relative ease.
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| So what to make of Khan's defeat last night?
I've not seen the fight yet but will get round to it shortly, I've obviously read the reports/Khan's comments and most of what I've read agree with Dita, a poor referee led to the scorecards revealing exactly what no one thought was possible early in the evening. I think anybody knows Khan is better than losing to Peterson, these freak results happen in boxing, it's rare, but it happens. I honestly thought Khan was passed being on the end of one of these results though, I thought his professionalism would have him fully concentratin on Peterson and getting the job done in style. It was a voluntary defence if I'm not mistaken so you would expect it to be a routine victory.
The standard of refereeing and judging has been poor for a long time, it isn't the first time that we see a biased referee favour the 'hometown' fighter towards a victory and it won't be the last. Until I see it I can't comment on the knockdown but from the reports one was a push and the other was a legitimate knockdown and resulted in a count, I think Brearley maybe a tad harsh on Khan from what I've read as the BBC said it was a good combo that put him down.
The main question to be answered is how he'll bounce back, Peterson's already said he'll give Khan a rematch, which I'd guess he'll take and set the record straight. Probably come out blazing and win it inside the distance. I agree with Brearley though in the sense that all throughout the build up to this fight Khan has constantly talked about moving up weights and taking on Mayweather, not only disrespectful to Peterson but he's shown he's not taking him as seriously as he should have been and it's bit him, maybe it's the timely defeat Khan needed just to take his cocky edge off again and make him work hard and win his fights. Happened against Prescot and he became a much better fighter for the setback and I expect the same again.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "
if it wasnt for the two points deductions then he would of won but then again khan did get a knockdown in the first round that wasnt a knockdown
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are you for real?! the first peterson slipped and the second its was a tangle of legs! if you call them knockdowns then later on when khan fell over is a knockdown too.
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