Yes!! imo Rooney was shocking in the first half only slightly better than Giggs but improved in the second half. Fletcher, Anderson and Carrick bossed the midfield pretty much all game and dominated Deco and Essien, i didn't even notice Lampard for most of the game.

People keep saying we're missing Ronaldo and i'd tend to agree on the attacking front but there is no way on this planet he could have put in the type of disiplined performance in attack and defence that Valencia put in on sunday Cashly would have had free reign on that side if Ronaldo had still been there.

Again Obertan looked pretty handy when he came off the bench and i'd like to see a bit more of him in games instead of the 10 minute cameos of the last few weeks but i guess he's still getting back to full fitness.

Really put in a stint as an assistant ref as well. Was there a decision made by the ref that he didn't have a go about?

If there was i'm sure Ballack more than made up for it

What a load of utter utter p!sh.

Imagine it is 0-0 in the last minute of the World Cup Final. Messi runs into the box, Ferdinand slides in but Messi* takes a pathetic swan dive without being touched. Penalty awarded. Scored. 1-0 Argentina.

Cheating Argie barsteward or simply avoiding injury?

We all know the answer to that and it simply shows your point to be more pathetic than it originally was.

* Messi was just an example. He is not a diver like plenty of the idiots that are tarnishing the Premiership at the moment.

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/10/robert-enke-germany-diedRobert Enke dies - thought to have commited suicide[/url

Just heard it on Catalan tv. They had a minutes silence at the Camp Nou for him.

[iOn 10 November 2009 Enke died in a train incident in Neustadt am Rübenberge.[12 German website Morgenpost Online have quoted a spokesperson from the Hannover police as saying: "Enke has thrown himself under a train at Neustadt am Rübenberge." The death is, however, unconfirmed as a suicide.[/i

[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/mancity/6532491/Manchester-City-supporters-demand-investigation-into-Jonny-Evans-challenge.htmlDivs or Bitters , you choose[/url


was interested to see a certain high profile signing described as a £40m Paul Dickov over the weekend.

Which England international said this not too long ago?

[i“I don’t think there’s anything worse than a player diving when no one’s been anywhere near him. It does ruin the game.

If I saw a team-mate doing it, I would definitely have a word.”[/i

Answers on a postcard.

Another reason to laugh at football.

Steven 'I never ever dive, honest' Gerrard?

Is there a Bitter Divs option?

the players have to be refs and Assistants cause the real refs and assistants dont do the job right so someone has to.

A monkey could do a better job than most of the Officials at all levels.