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Quote: Saddened! "It's not difficult to see Liverpool's problems. They start with Rafa and end with Benitez.

HE has built the majority of this squad and has certainly been there long enough for anyone elses influence to have worn off. Liverpool are in their worst state in many a year. Torres, Reina and Gerrard are world class, Benayouin is quality, but beyond those three? Kuyt is a complete donkey, he is your typical Sheffield United player, works his backside off but hasn't got any quality about him at all. Ngog, Babel, Riera, Aquilani, Lucas, the list goes on an on. They paid £18m for a pathetic right back in Johnson so can never ever moan about not being able to spend money. They money they paid for him plus Aquilani would have bought them Villa or two truly dominant centre backs. How bad is Carragher these days? It's hillarious watching him, he's gone.

In order to win the Premier League Liverpool realistically need 2 centre backs, 2 fullbacks, two central midfielders, two wide midfielders and two strikers. Rafa has arguably the two best players in the Premier League and has used this as his get out of jail card for far too long. Why did he spend £18 on Glen Johnson when he only has ONE striker? What did he think would happen when that ponce Goldylocks got injured? Why did he spend £15m+ on an Italian midfielder who had been injured for a year? What did he think would happen when Stevie G got injured.

What happens now is Torres goes home and picks up a copy of the DVD editing software Leon Pryce is using. He gets himself a move in January or at least the end of the season. Liverpool spend the money on a couple of players, see an upturn in form and predict that 'next season is ours' again.

If Mr Benitez had even a scrap of integrity he'd resign tonight. Instead he'll hide behind the flak being aimed at the owners and rob another few months salary from the club.'"


No it starts with the owners and ends with the owners we spent blah blah so what it means nothing if you are selling players to buy players even Everton can buy a couple of £15M players.

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Rafa picks the team, Rafa chooses to play injured players, Rafa chooses to buy and play Lucas, Insua etc.

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Quote: Mark "Rafa picks the team, Rafa chooses to play injured players, Rafa chooses to buy and play Lucas, Insua etc.'"


Owners decide the make up of the team he picks from.

You should know more then anyone about owners your going to have a real fight to keep your position due to there actions.

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heard rafa is already gone

how much of it is true i dont know

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Quote: Danny 2 "heard rafa is already gone

how much of it is true i dont know'"


Although I know it wont be

PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE icon_razz.gifRAY:

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Quote: LFCRhino "Although I know it wont be

PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE
i hope it is tbh he has done a great job for us

but he is fastly becoming a joke now

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Quote: Danny 2 "i hope it is tbh he has done a great job for us

but he is fastly becoming a joke now'"


Not gonna happen though lets face it he signed a new contract in the summer so unless he quits we cant afford to get rid icon_rolleyes.gif icon_beat.gif

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Quote: RedTez "Was that included in the figures? I heard City's "98m" loss didn't include the summer spending. Do the United books published include the Ronaldo sale, Valencia signing etc?'"


Ronaldo sale is included, Valencia isn't as he was signed after 30 June.

The fact that we had to sell £80m of player to make a profit is disturbing, and has come at a convenient time for the Glazer's when they are trying to work up this bond issue thing. Include that transfer and you have £40m profit instead of £40m loss, suddenly looks more appealing to investors, although surely they aren't that thick to believe it?

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Quote: Danny 2 "heard rafa is already gone

how much of it is true i dont know'"


In Rafa we trust...

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Quote: Wire_85 "No it starts with the owners and ends with the owners we spent blah blah so what it means nothing if you are selling players to buy players even Everton can buy a couple of £15M players.'"



I think the owners will have to give him a nudge before he will resign.

We should be able to afford to pay him out. If not, i'm sure we can sell Melwood to Kop Holdings Ltd and lease it back off them icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Saddened! "

Lucas - Not good enough
Emiliano Insúa - Not good enough
David N'Gog - Not good enough
Damien Plessis - Not good enough
Nabil El Zhar - Not good enough'"


Those above you deemed not good enough are still young enough to develop their game to become good enough. There is only 2 players on that list that start regularly though. Wash N'gog is starting to become a good striker and would suit a regular spot in a Championship side. The other 2 we've not seen enough of to pass comment.

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I would love to know exactly how much Rafa has spent while he has been there. It said in the paper yesterday he has signed over 90 players. (It was The Mirror though).

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Quote: Nemanja "Ronaldo sale is included, Valencia isn't as he was signed after 30 June.

The fact that we had to sell £80m of player to make a profit is disturbing, and has come at a convenient time for the Glazer's when they are trying to work up this bond issue thing. Include that transfer and you have £40m profit instead of £40m loss, suddenly looks more appealing to investors, although surely they aren't that thick to believe it?'"


And £36m received up front for next seasons sponsorship

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Quote: Saddened! "


Failure? one bad season in his whole reign makes him a failure?

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