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Quote: ST_CONROY "I wouldn't trust Belicheat. As Spygate showed us, he is more than willing to cheat anybody and everybody to win.

Small change to my fantasy team. Changed Tampa D for Packers D.'"


Yeah why trust a guy thats got you 3 big fat superbowl rings icon_rolleyes.gif icon_lol.gif icon_wink.gif

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Quote: LFCRhino "Yeah why trust a guy thats got you 3 big fat superbowl rings
2. You cheated your way to one so it doesn't really count. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: ST_CONROY "2. You cheated your way to one so it doesn't really count. eusa_hand.gif PROVE IT icon_wink.gif
The NFL seems to be finding it hard so you could even make yourself some cash icon_lol.gif icon_wink.gif

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Quote: LFCRhino "eusa_hand.gif PROVE IT
The year you were found out you lost.

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Quote: Darkheart "The year you were found out you lost.'"


The year we were "found out" we won 18 games in a row icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: LFCRhino "The year we were "found out" we won 18 games in a row
and won nothing HTH.

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Quote: Darkheart "and won nothing HTH.'"


I think you will find we won the AFC Championship icon_wink.gif

but what has that got to do with us "cheating" ? icon_confused.gif

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Quote: LFCRhino "I think you will find we won the AFC Championship
With cheating= Win Superbowl

Found out and stopped cheating= Defeat in Superbowl

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Quote: ST_CONROY "With cheating

icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif So it was nothing to do with the fact that we were terrible in that game and the Giants played awesome eusa_think.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif


Im still waiting for everyones proof of this "cheating" and so is the NFL

HTH icon_wink.gif

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Im quite looking forward to seeing how Favre does tonight even after all the saga of the will he/wont he retire I have to admit that Im suprised how much I cant wait to see it icon_eek.gif

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Quote: LFCRhino "


Im still waiting for everyones proof of this "cheating" and so is the NFL

HTH
No they aren't. Unless you don't count:

Being caught and disciplined for taping the Jets.

Belicheat admitting to it.

Belicheat admitting doing it since he became head coach dating as far back as 2001.

Alledged taping of Rams prior to Superbowl. As yet not 100% proved.

Unless your saying you were punished by the NFL for nothing?

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Not at all but if you remember when it first came to light the NFL stated that it wasnt against the rules and it was more of an unwritten rule that was frowned upon(whatever the hell that means) icon_eek.gif . In my book anyone would of/ probably has done the same thing and the pats have been made an example of(rightly so IMO I dont see what good it would do anyway in a game situation where nothing ever happens the same as practice), lets face it no one else will admit to it after they saw the fine that the pats got.

I must admit I find it very strange that something supposedly as big as this has never really been talked about after the incident, if it was as serious as people on here make out they would have been banned from the play-offs and not just a pointless first round draft pick taken away that we generally trade away anyway IF they made the playoffs icon_rolleyes.gif

In America it seems the only people bothered were Jets fans as if they would have beat us in that game anyway icon_lol.gif
I dont hear any Rams fans saying anything about the super bowl icon_lol.gif

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Quote: LFCRhino "Not at all but if you remember when it first came to light the NFL stated that it wasnt against the rules and it was more of an unwritten rule that was frowned upon(whatever the hell that means)
I'm a Rams fan and i'll comment on it. I don't think other teams do it because as far as i know its completely illegal, if it isn't illegal nobody else has been caught doing it which doesn't help the Pats, to do what the Pats did. We only lost that Superbowl by 3 points and have been going downhill ever since. Did the taping give the Pats those 3 extra points? i suppose we will never know, it will certainly of given them an unfair advantage

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Quote: El Pac Carnegie "I'm a Rams fan and i'll comment on it. I don't think other teams do it because as far as i know its completely illegal, if it isn't illegal nobody else has been caught doing it which doesn't help the Pats, to do what the Pats did. We only lost that Superbowl by 3 points and have been going downhill ever since. Did the taping give the Pats those 3 extra points? i suppose we will never know, it will certainly of given them an unfair advantage'"


I think what was worse about the SB loss was the tactics used by the Patriots defence on the field of which their continued use actually pretty much led to the rules on pass interference being changed and being enforced a lot more stringently. Our passing game was destroyed by their defensive backs who were roughing up our wide receivers all game. Given that fact, you could say the Patriots were very lucky to get to and win the SB that year given the controversy surrounding the "tuck rule" in the Divisional playoff game against Oakland.

As for Bellichick, he's a fantastic coach but he's a complete bell end who I have little respect for. There's plenty of great coaches in various sports who I dislike (Alex Ferguson, etc), but few who I think would go to the sort of lengths that he would go to, to win.

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Give over there is only 1 thing that matters in sports WINNING if you dont win you lose if you lose you lose your job

Therefore anyone would anything to get the win whether people choose to believe it or not icon_lol.gif

When it comes to the Superbowl pass interference I think it was very clever and the fact that they used it to their own advantage to win and upset the favourites just proves what a smart coach Belicheck is icon_smile.gif

We give you a chance to get back into the game when Willie McGinnest held/basically tackled Faulk on the line when Warner fumbled icon_cool.gif

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