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Quote: flipper "would have loved them to have no balled him, but was probably legal, just.'"

Very very close, think he got the nod on the sympathy vote.

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Upset they've taken Mitch off, was hoping he'd make his double century.

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how ragged?

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Lunch, 636-9, which equals our best ever score down under.

I really should go to bed.

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All out for 644, our highest ever score in Australia.

Aussies need 364 to make us bat again.

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Its taken me 10 minutes to stop laughing from that 1st wicket run out. Brilliant! Absolutely fantastic! The highest form of incompetence!

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It's lovely to wake up and find we have a whole day (weather permitting) to get their last three batsmen out.
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Quote: Asim "All out for 644, our highest ever score in Australia.

Aussies need 364 to make us bat again.'"

Pah! Len Hutton would have knocked that off on his own. These Aussies are hopeless.

Still 153 needed to avoid the innings defeat on the final day with just three wickets left.

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What a day!

Great knock by Prior and the bolwers were superb. Sad to see Colly retire but it's the right time I think, been a big player for England and has helped hugely with our fielding improvements.

Bresnan has done well since he came into the side but I still feel Broad will come back in and Tremlett will keep his place. I think there are 5/6 options to replace Collingwood.

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Quote: PAUL M "Bresnan has done well since he came into the side but I still feel Broad will come back in and Tremlett will keep his place. I think there are 5/6 options to replace Collingwood.'"


If they go like-for-like then it's got to be Bopara. If they go down the batsman route then Morgan has to be number 1 choice with the likes of Hildreth and Gale close behind. If they go bowling all-rounder then Bresnan has to be top of the list assuming Broad comes back into the side.

Interesting times ahead anyway.

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Quote: PAUL M "I think there are 5/6 options to replace Collingwood.'"

Agreed. Much of the media seems to be painting it as a seamless transition with Bell moving up to 5 and Morgan coming in at 6, which to be honest is what I was thinking myself until recently. However, the biggest single weakness in the current team is the lack of support to the four specialist bowlers, and if Morgan were to replace Collingwood that particular issue would be more of a problem. (Imagine if one of the main bowlers pulled up injured on the first day against India's stellar batting line up?)

Another option would be to move Prior up to 6 and accommodate Broad, Bresnan & Swann at 7,8 & 9. Given the current form of the remaining top order batsmen I think that would be my personal preference. Otherwise I'd think about Adil Rashid as a batting all-rounder, in a similar way that Australia have introduced Steve Smith to their team. (Rashid's career batting average is better than Morgan's.)

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I'd forgotten, like the selectors it seems, about Adil Rashid!!
He would be an ideal replacement for Collingwood.

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It doesnt appear that England have been inconvenienced by playing 4 bowlers rather than 5. The only time we've struggled to keep the bowlers fresh was in the Aussies first innings in Brisbane and I dont think an extra bowler would have made much difference then.

It must be make or break for Rashid this year. If he really comes on both with bat and ball there could be a strong case for having him in as a 5th bowler. I've always though he has far more batting ability than Broad or Bresnan. Otherwise it seems a case of replacing Collingwood with Morgan and rotating 3 seamers + Swann.

Great to see us on the verge of 3-1 which would reflect the relative strengths of the two teams. I did worry that having secured the ashes we might let them nick a drawn series which would have been a travesty.

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Quote: Prince of Denmark "Agreed. Much of the media seems to be painting it as a seamless transition with Bell moving up to 5 and Morgan coming in at 6, which to be honest is what I was thinking myself until recently. However, the biggest single weakness in the current team is the lack of support to the four specialist bowlers, and if Morgan were to replace Collingwood that particular issue would be more of a problem. (Imagine if one of the main bowlers pulled up injured on the first day against India's stellar batting line up?)

Another option would be to move Prior up to 6 and accommodate Broad, Bresnan & Swann at 7,8 & 9. Given the current form of the remaining top order batsmen I think that would be my personal preference. Otherwise I'd think about Adil Rashid as a batting all-rounder, in a similar way that Australia have introduced Steve Smith to their team. (Rashid's career batting average is better than Morgan's.)'"


I just can't see England picking an alrounder. I think they will look for a batsmen as Collingwood bowls very little these days and they could alwyas use KP if desperate maybe?

Strauss, Cook, Trott, KP, Bell, Prior, Bresnan/Rashid, Broad, Swann, Tremlett, Anderson

Are there enough out and out batsmen in there? Yes we bat down to 9 but there are only 5 frontline batsmen. I don't feel Morgan is a good enough Test player to bat at 6, still a One Day player for me.

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As Bumble said, get Bopara in to a winning team at 6 and let him do some damage. He can bowl some Collingwood-esque dibbly dobblers as well if need be.

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Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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