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go you blues cockroaches. blues babes 8) cmon aussie cmon cmon. cmon aussie cmon. cmon aussie. cmon aussie. cmon aussie. aussie aussie aussie ouh ouh ouh :ROCKS: 15 grand final wins. 14 grand final loses. 15[16now] minor premiers. no other club compare's. SUPER SOWARD 8) . ''Dico wrote:'' I thought with the 8 point try you only took one kick and were given the other 2 points? havent seen one for donkeys years. LOL. //forums.rleague.com/index.php:



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Quote: Panda Antics "If Flintoff is unable to play all 5 tests I think he'll just be replaced with which ever pace bowler is left out of the starting XI; be that Sidebottom or Onions.'"


In which case the top 6 better score a ton of runs...

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He didn't make much difference last time.

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If he only plays one decent innings in three, having Flintoff at 7 makes a massive difference to the England lineup. Without him the tail just looks too long. Even if we get to 300-4 the Aussies will know they're only a couple of wickets away from finishing of our innings.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "In which case the top 6 better score a ton of runs...'"


Even if you had Bresnan in though, the top 6 need to make big scores. Bresnan's first class average is 27 and to be honest I can't see Bresnan making a Test fifty against the Aussies so he's hardly going to contribute massively.

He may have a bit more staying power than the rest of the tail but if he's not going to get many runs, I'd say there's more benefit in having an extra front line bowler.

In agree with your point though, the top 6 are going to need to make some runs.

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Quote: Panda Antics "

In agree with your point though, the top 6 are going to need to make some runs.'"


that's their job, in 05 many of the team stood up at different times and put in a performance - we need more of the same

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Quote: Andy Gilder "In which case the top 6 better score a ton of runs...'"


If at any point we are 100-6 then I wouldn't have much hope of winning to be honest...

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go you blues cockroaches. blues babes 8) cmon aussie cmon cmon. cmon aussie cmon. cmon aussie. cmon aussie. cmon aussie. aussie aussie aussie ouh ouh ouh :ROCKS: 15 grand final wins. 14 grand final loses. 15[16now] minor premiers. no other club compare's. SUPER SOWARD 8) . ''Dico wrote:'' I thought with the 8 point try you only took one kick and were given the other 2 points? havent seen one for donkeys years. LOL. //forums.rleague.com/index.php:



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Whatever criticism people level at Flintoff, the fact remains, that along with Pieterson, he is one of the few players that the Aussies actually fear.

Yes, 2005 was a long time ago now, but the massive influence that Freddie had over that series still haunts the Aussies to this day....It does baffle me that Ian Botham got an Ashes series named after him when taking on a pretty average Aussie outfit, yet, in my opinion, Flintoff's 2005 contribution, against the World's best, was much more impressive a feat.

Simple fact remains that if England are to win (and I believe they won't), then Flintoff will have to have a big series, because England do not possess anybody close to him in terms of sheer presence.

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Hughes and Ponting already back in the hutch, Aussies 30-2 against the Lions.

One each for Onions and Harmison.

England experimenting with two spinners in the Warwickshire game...

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Dont rate that Hughes at all im just glad hes in the squad and not a Hayden/Langer they are a young team with hradly any expeirance of the english conditions the variable bouce and the swing (Orthodox and Reverse) 2-0 englanmd for me Pieterson or Flintoof MOS

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go you blues cockroaches. blues babes 8) cmon aussie cmon cmon. cmon aussie cmon. cmon aussie. cmon aussie. cmon aussie. aussie aussie aussie ouh ouh ouh :ROCKS: 15 grand final wins. 14 grand final loses. 15[16now] minor premiers. no other club compare's. SUPER SOWARD 8) . ''Dico wrote:'' I thought with the 8 point try you only took one kick and were given the other 2 points? havent seen one for donkeys years. LOL. //forums.rleague.com/index.php:



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Onions 6-1-16-1'"
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go you blues cockroaches. blues babes 8) cmon aussie cmon cmon. cmon aussie cmon. cmon aussie. cmon aussie. cmon aussie. aussie aussie aussie ouh ouh ouh :ROCKS: 15 grand final wins. 14 grand final loses. 15[16now] minor premiers. no other club compare's. SUPER SOWARD 8) . ''Dico wrote:'' I thought with the 8 point try you only took one kick and were given the other 2 points? havent seen one for donkeys years. LOL. //forums.rleague.com/index.php:



Quote: The Angry Pirate "Whatever criticism people level at Flintoff, the fact remains, that along with Pieterson, he is one of the few players that the Aussies actually fear.

Yes, 2005 was a long time ago now, but the massive influence that Freddie had over that series still haunts the Aussies to this day....It does baffle me that Ian Botham got an Ashes series named after him when taking on a pretty average Aussie outfit, yet, in my opinion, Flintoff's 2005 contribution, against the World's best, was much more impressive a feat.

Simple fact remains that if England are to win (and I believe they won't), then Flintoff will have to have a big series, because England do not possess anybody close to him in terms of sheer presence.'"
but freddie is a drunk icon_lol.gif

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