I'm not sure where the 'sarcasm' thing fits in either, seems a bit odd. And the irony of Liverpool fans wanting racism charges brought against Terry is hilarious

I felt the media coverage of the whole affair was disgraceful, I felt that the FA were instantly out to find a guilty man and once Suarez admitted using 'a word', he was always doomed, but that's just me taking my position in the side of an argument/debate. Is that the world, or are you exaggerating again?

The reason I gave Terry sh*t was because of a video of him clearly saying "FBC, FKH". Considering the whole world wasn't interested in what Suarez said, just the use of one word, I was quite happy to jump on the bandwagon as I couldn't imagine Terry being cleared of any wrongdoing when there was clear video evidence to show him saying it, whilst there was no evidence of Suarez saying what he was charged with, just a 'victim' and a decision based on probability, something I still feel isn't fair but I won't bother with that.

As has already been said, the two cases were completely different in every sense other than racism being the theme. It will be interesting to see if the FA decide to use their own investigation to charge Terry, or whether they hide behind the court's decision.

Now, where does this involve murderers, Heysel, Hillsborough or whatever else it is you want to throw in? You then say my head is screwed and I should take my own life? Are you sure you're OK pal?

As soon as the allegation was made you were already proclaiming him innocent. You insisted that his immediate denial was so vehement that you believed him as you couldn't see him denying it in such a fashion if he was guilty.

But Terry's denial was even more vehement. He spoke with Cole DURING THE MATCH and said Ferdinand had accused him of racism. He spoke with Ferdinand after the game and tried to clear up what happened. He made an instant statement after the game to offer his side of the story. A side of the story he still sticks with. A side of the story that video evidence pretty much backs up, even though there were several viewing angles and there's no way Terry would have known what the cameras showed.

You claim the FA wanted wanted to stitch you up, you've claimed that Evra was allowed to be coached and allowed to make his statement along to video evidence and Suarez wasn't. You've no way of knowing any of this 5hit and it smacks of paranoid scouse lunacy. Just because you cannot possibly handle it that Suarez said something he shouldn't.

You say that there's no evidence of Suarez saying the words, but that's not what the hearing said. They said there was footage of several arguments between them, while Suarez claimed that there was only one verbal confrontation between them. And you haven't seen the footage that was made available during the hearing, so you don't even know what was shown. (And even if you did see and hear Suarez clearly racially abusing him, you'd them come up with another moronic excuse to hide behind).

How does this involve murderers, Heysel, Hillsborough? You scouse c**** are dishing out the jibes and bringing up irrelevant 5hit, I'm giving it back to you. But no doubt that's a FA conspiracy too.

Racial abuse in englsih football isn't new - I recall watching Clyde Best and Albert Johannson ,two fine footballers take their fair share of abuse both on and off the pitch in the late sixties - the chants were sometimes disgusting but often said by fans as part of the craic and by fellow players in fun or in the heat of the moment. This didn't prevent the small minority of fans and players being real racists and being able to get away with this abuse but it went on just like players were called f*****g jocks or whatever - that's life, get on with it ! Nobody cared about being 'PC' in those days, it as done as part of the game - why are peole so touchy nowadays ?

You're right Roddy the two cases are different but 'the people' are beying for their blood for different reasons, Suarez because of his attitude (guilty or not) not helped by the King and the other players and their p**s taking attitude with the T shirts etc and for JT because most people see him and his family as a low-life scumbag who deserves to be shafted - it doesn't make it right but that's the general attitude as seen by neutrals like me.

Yourself and LGJM have your personal agendas but please, both of you don't go so low as to drag Heysel & Hillsborough etc into the argument - that's just plain bad taste.

Quote: McClennan "I don't know about legally but in the context of the FA we can think through the process ourselves. Imagine if you were a business owner and Suarez and Terry did what they did in your workplace. Make your decision based on that. How much weight do you give to each argument? I'm not defending Suarez but Terry has less of an excuse for using the language he did because, as far as I'm concerned, being a long-term resident of this country he knows that it is wrong so to use it means his actions have been deliberate and willful i.e. I never call anybody "black xxx" or whatever. I think Suarez used his language willfully too but I think we have to admit that it's not that big a leap to see how his usage [icould[/i have been deemed to have come from cultural differences (I don't agree with that but I can see the argument that says it could be). Again, I am not saying one is worse than the other, or that both should receive penalties, only that there is reason for applying a penalty in both instances.'" www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... d-ban.html Yes, its only the Mail, but it suggests that, to ensure consistency with the treatment of Suarez, Terry should be charged even if its accepted that he was only repeating back Ferdinands words. I think that, after the Court case, the FA would like to drop the case like a stone. But they're going to have to demonstrate that they've dealt with both players fairly and consistently.

Quote: McClennan "I don't know about legally but in the context of the FA we can think through the process ourselves. Imagine if you were a business owner and Suarez and Terry did what they did in your workplace. Make your decision based on that. How much weight do you give to each argument? I'm not defending Suarez but Terry has less of an excuse for using the language he did because, as far as I'm concerned, being a long-term resident of this country he knows that it is wrong so to use it means his actions have been deliberate and willful i.e. I never call anybody "black xxx" or whatever. I think Suarez used his language willfully too but I think we have to admit that it's not that big a leap to see how his usage [icould[/i have been deemed to have come from cultural differences (I don't agree with that but I can see the argument that says it could be). Again, I am not saying one is worse than the other, or that both should receive penalties, only that there is reason for applying a penalty in both instances.'" www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... d-ban.html Yes, its only the Mail, but it suggests that, to ensure consistency with the treatment of Suarez, Terry should be charged even if its accepted that he was only repeating back Ferdinands words. I think that, after the Court case, the FA would like to drop the case like a stone. But they're going to have to demonstrate that they've dealt with both players fairly and consistently.

Leaving aside the racial element, bad language is always going to be a part of sport I dont think many are that bothered about it. But there's a difference between casual use of bad language and the abusive nature of the exchange between Ferdinand and Terry. The question really is whether that exchange was exceptional or whether it does happen routinely in matches. If it was exceptional and the referee didnt hear it then both should be charged. If its something thats been tolerated in the past then they shouldnt make the two players scapegoats but should issue new guidelines.

That would be utterly ridiculous and wouldn't be consistent in the slightest. They should both be banned for their behaviour and the other language used, along with Rio Ferdinand who's acted like an utter bell end throughout and after the proceedings. Yes, footballers use that sort of language in every game, but it's not broadcast to the whole country in a high profile court case, dragging the game through the mud.

why should anyone be banned ? bad language, abusive behaviour and racist, xenophobic or homophbic taunts have been a part of the game since it started - a court of law has found lowlife Terry innocent so the case is closed and Anton has been made to look rather silly - just get on with the game FFS !

the game has been dragged through the mud since scumbags like Terry,Barton,Lee Hughes & Cashley Cole have been in the game ....to mention but a few

Where are people seeing Modric ending up?

El Real.

They won't want to sell him to another English club, and they definitely won't want to sell him to us.

So Real would probably be favourites, PSG a distant second , a premium added for Man United and a premium times 3 for us.

Great article for the naysayers: www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 45430.html

Great article for the naysayers: www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 45430.html

Rooney got a 2 game ban for swearing not so long ago...

And as for Modric, if he does go to Real where would he play? They have Ozil who plays that kind of role and haven't they signed someone else who's name escapes me from Germany (I think) who plays a very similar role??