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Quote: LFCRhino "Just nod,smile and politely tell him hes talking bollax
I'm correct though. It isn't just as simple as win and the QB is praised. Lose and it is his fault.

Last week Rodgers put us in the position to win in the fourth quarter. Crosby missed the kick.
Yesterday Rodgers scored with 13 seconds left. A poor punt gave them the position to win.

I thought we'd lose yesterday (I picked against us in the PickEm league and said so on here) given our injuries, but that is no excuse.

We need to turn around our form in fourth quarters which is worrying but i don't see that defeat being because Rodgers isn't "clutch".

Three defeats by three game ending field goals shows we aren't far away from being the team we should be despite our issues in each game. We have a tough run in to the bye week so we really need to get rolling soon.

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Quote: Nikaed "Like in Superbowl 42?
Yes.

Brady could have lead us to a game winning TD but he didn`t, if he had of done he would have been praised for winning us the game, but we didnt so he was blamed for having a poor game!

HTH icon_wink.gif

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Quote: ST_CONROY "I'm correct though. It isn't just as simple as win and the QB is praised. Lose and it is his fault.

Last week Rodgers put us in the position to win in the fourth quarter. Crosby missed the kick.
Yesterday Rodgers scored with 13 seconds left. A poor punt gave them the position to win.

I thought we'd lose yesterday (I picked against us in the PickEm league and said so on here) given our injuries, but that is no excuse.

We need to turn around our form in fourth quarters which is worrying but i don't see that defeat being because Rodgers isn't "clutch".

Three defeats by three game ending field goals shows we aren't far away from being the team we should be despite our issues in each game. We have a tough run in to the bye week so we really need to get rolling soon.'"



0-5 in overtime games. The "elite" take their team down the field when the games is on the line and win the game, more often than not". Rodgers is a supremely gifted quarterback and one of the league's top 10, but the best have this in their locker. It will come in time as you have to remember he is basically in his 3rd season. Would you like to modify your 12-4 prediciton? I'm thinking 10-6 (probably still win the north)

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Quote: LFCRhino "Yes.

Brady could have lead us to a game winning TD but he didn`t, if he had of done he would have been praised for winning us the game, but we didnt so he was blamed for having a poor game!

HTH

Our defence was unplayable that day. Brady had no time whatsover. I've got Deion Branch in fantasyland. Wanna work out a trade? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: ST_CONROY "I'm correct though. It isn't just as simple as win and the QB is praised. Lose and it is his fault.
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It really is though most of the time, nobody remembers injuries/ bad play from other positions very often but QB`s are always remembered for there ability/non ability to make game winning comebacks/ get them into position for winning FG`s.

Its a QB`s league with all the praise they get, deserved more often than not they have to come in for stick sometimes too.

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Quote: Nikaed "Our defence was unplayable that day. Brady had no time whatsover. I've got Deion Branch in fantasyland. Wanna work out a trade?
No If I wanted him I would already have him icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Nikaed "0-5 in overtime games. '"



Brady is 8-1 now, only one he lost was last year against Denver icon_cool.gif

" Brady’s 30th career fourth-quarter comeback. Quarterback Tom Brady led the Patriots to victory from a fourth-quarter deficit for the 30th time in his career. Brady was 16-of-24 for 156 yards in the fourth quarter and overtime. The comeback was Brady’s seventh in his career when trailing by 10 or more points in the fourth."

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Quote: Nikaed "0-5 in overtime games. '"



Brady is 8-1 now, only one he lost was last year against Denver icon_cool.gif

" Brady’s 30th career fourth-quarter comeback. Quarterback Tom Brady led the Patriots to victory from a fourth-quarter deficit for the 30th time in his career. Brady was 16-of-24 for 156 yards in the fourth quarter and overtime. The comeback was Brady’s seventh in his career when trailing by 10 or more points in the fourth."

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Quote: LFCRhino "No If I wanted him I would already have him
As if. You just get a high waiver pick each week. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Nikaed "As if. You just get a high waiver pick each week.
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Quote: LFCRhino "Brady is 8-1 now, only one he lost was last year against Denver

That's a hell of a record. I know 30% of Eli's td passes come in the 4th quarter or overtime. That was one of the attributes that Accorsi loved when he drafted him.

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wins/4th quarter comebacks/game winning drives
Brady 101/21/30
PManning 134/35/44
Montana 117/31/33
Marino 147/36/51
Elway 148/35/46
Bradshaw 107/19/27
Favre 181/29/43
E Manning 54/13/16
A Rodgers 17/3/4*

*A Rodgers doesnt count this seasons stats because Im not sure if he has had any game winning drives/4th quarter comebacks?!?

All from this website www.pro-football-reference.com/

Looks like a good one icon_smile.gif
wins/4th quarter comebacks/game winning drives
Brady 101/21/30
PManning 134/35/44
Montana 117/31/33
Marino 147/36/51
Elway 148/35/46
Bradshaw 107/19/27
Favre 181/29/43
E Manning 54/13/16
A Rodgers 17/3/4*

*A Rodgers doesnt count this seasons stats because Im not sure if he has had any game winning drives/4th quarter comebacks?!?

All from this website www.pro-football-reference.com/

Looks like a good one icon_smile.gif


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Quote: LFCRhino "wins/4th quarter comebacks/game winning drives
Brady 101/21/30
PManning 134/35/44
Montana 117/31/33
Marino 147/36/51
Elway 148/35/46
Bradshaw 107/19/27
Favre 181/29/43
E Manning 54/13/16
A Rodgers 17/3/4*

*A Rodgers doesnt count this seasons stats because Im not sure if he has had any game winning drives/4th quarter comebacks?!?

All from this website
A better one would be to compare how many chances they've had. That'd be pretty diffcult though.

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Quote: Nikaed "A better one would be to compare how many chances they've had. That'd be pretty diffcult though.'"


Im not sure those stats are kept, although knowing the NFL and how stat mad they are they may do, but Im not even going to bother looking TBH it could take a while!

I will look another day icon_wink.gif

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Quote: DancingDodo "Played the Crewe Railroaders in a scrimmage yesterday, boy am I sore this morning.
Will you be playing Lancaster Bombers? I'll be heading up to watch them a couple of times.

I am itching for January to start now I have finished therapy on my shoulder. Moving out to WR and trying my hand at corner too.

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Quote: Nikaed "0-5 in overtime games. The "elite" take their team down the field when the games is on the line and win the game, more often than not". Rodgers is a supremely gifted quarterback and one of the league's top 10, but the best have this in their locker. It will come in time as you have to remember he is basically in his 3rd season. Would you like to modify your 12-4 prediciton? I'm thinking 10-6 (probably still win the north)'"


No doubt you'll quote me on this later in the year if i'm wrong. icon_wink.gif I think we'll be between 11-5 and 9-7 (probably the latter at the minute).

Like I say we aren't far away and assuming we get our players back (One of the key issues yesterday was pass rush. Clay Matthews out meant we had none. Tauscher out meant we couldn't stop Wake) we can be very good. We've only lost by a total of 9 points.

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