I'd have to take the '07 Pats myself.

Me too but only because they finished 16-0 The Saints still have a long way to go to match it, personally I dont think they will but if they do it would be fantastic but as we proved it doesnt matter how many games you win or records you break, there is only 1 game that matters and we blew it.

I think the Saints will lose a couple of games before the season is through and it will help them in a way because they will have less pressure on them...

The issue isn't that you went 16-0 it's you both started 7-0. (Personally i think the Saints will go 15-1)

I think the Saints are a more balanced, and better, overall team the the 07 Pats.

I know that but the point I was making was that the Pats did it consistently for the whole season, I cant see the Saints doing that especially with the amount of points they give up

0-17 is the future.

How does a team go 0-17?

Losing in their bye week, its the way forward!

Now that's committment.

True.

Nail on head.

Im sure the Lions will be the first to go 0-18 when the season gets extended or at least give it their best shot !!!

The crazy thing about the Bucs is that there isnt that much different in terms of personell in comparison to last year. Brooks, Garcia, Galloway Adams have all moved and the loss of Monte Kiffin is a huge loss also. I think they could sneak a couple of wins between now and the end of the season.