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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"Glentoran 1-0 Portadown BURROWS GOAL
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"
Against Ben Arfa he made minimal contact with the ball. If he hadn't taken Ben Arfa out then it would have been a useless challenge.
But I guess it's difficult getting clean contact with the ball when you're concentrating on making sure you make contact with the opponent as well.'"
Nigel de Jong won the ball fairly and squarely. It's a shame that Ben Arfa got injured but these things happen in football. There was no foul and that should be the end of the matter.
I'm not his biggest fan by a long stretch, but the witch hunt over a perfectly legal tackle is just another example of the press looking to put the boot in on us at every possible chance.
Interesting to see Liverpool fans getting all excited about the New England boys coming in. I believe the guy has a personal wealth of about £540m which is absolute peanuts in this day and age.
The debts may be wiped out but I can't see much money being available in terms of transfer funds.
City have spent nigh on £1 billion and are still nowhere near good enough, so what effect will the drop in the ocean that this group can bring have on Liverpool?
It seems to me that they are that desperate to get rid of Hicks and Gillette, that they will sell to anyone no matter who they are.
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| but if Ben Arfa did the same to de jong you wouldnt be saying the same story
end of the day it was a bad tackle and should of got a yellow or red
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| Quote D.D.="D.D."Interesting to see Liverpool fans getting all excited about the New England boys coming in. I believe the guy has a personal wealth of about £540m which is absolute peanuts in this day and age.
The debts may be wiped out but I can't see much money being available in terms of transfer funds.
City have spent nigh on £1 billion and are still nowhere near good enough, so what effect will the drop in the ocean that this group can bring have on Liverpool?
It seems to me that they are that desperate to get rid of Hicks and Gillette, that they will sell to anyone no matter who they are.'"
I will be delighted if the guys coming in keep there promise, clear the debts and either build the new stadium or upgrade Anfield.
If they do that, then i would be more than happy for us to compete in the transfer market etc with money that we have earned, rather than thrown at us. If that means being a mid table side, or just trying to compete to get back in the champions league then so be it.
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| Quote D.D.="D.D."Nigel de Jong won the ball fairly and squarely. It's a shame that Ben Arfa got injured but these things happen in football. There was no foul and that should be the end of the matter.
I'm not his biggest fan by a long stretch, but the witch hunt over a perfectly legal tackle is just another example of the press looking to put the boot in on us at every possible chance.
Interesting to see Liverpool fans getting all excited about the New England boys coming in. I believe the guy has a personal wealth of about £540m which is absolute peanuts in this day and age.
The debts may be wiped out but I can't see much money being available in terms of transfer funds.
City have spent nigh on £1 billion and are still nowhere near good enough, so what effect will the drop in the ocean that this group can bring have on Liverpool?
It seems to me that they are that desperate to get rid of Hicks and Gillette, that they will sell to anyone no matter who they are.'"
No seen anyone I know get excited about it, its more to do with getting rid of millions and millions of debts and getting rid of them two, nobodys thinks it going to be a City type takeover with them being silly with money £10-20m (net) going into the squad every year will do me, though City seemed to be able to spend as much as they like without even a league Cup to show for it must be a City thing.
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"Glentoran 1-0 Portadown BURROWS GOAL
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Like a young LFCRhino special 
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| Quote Saint Viper="Saint Viper"I will be delighted if the guys coming in keep there promise, clear the debts and either build the new stadium or upgrade Anfield.
If they do that, then i would be more than happy for us to compete in the transfer market etc with money that we have earned, rather than thrown at us. If that means being a mid table side, or just trying to compete to get back in the champions league then so be it.'"
Liverpool are big enough to earn the revenue they need to compete. Smaller clubs need money thrown at them - Chelsea, City etc. Should the new owner rid the club of debt, Liverpool will be on the road to recovery.
On the upgarde of Anfield - how much could they it extend by?
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| Quote D.D.="D.D."Nigel de Jong won the ball fairly and squarely. It's a shame that Ben Arfa got injured but these things happen in football. There was no foul and that should be the end of the matter.
I'm not his biggest fan by a long stretch, but the witch hunt over a perfectly legal tackle is just another example of the press looking to put the boot in on us at every possible chance.'"
In the semi final of the FA Cup, when John Terry won the ball cleanly, got kicked by Milner straight after, was then booked by the ref and after the game had to put up with claims that he should've been sent off, you were backing Terry were you? Because I don't remember seeing anyone on here who didn't think Terry should have been off.
Of course it's all an anti-Citeh witch hunt. Nothing to do with two broken legs and a kung-fu kick through someone's chest in the space of a few months.
I have to retract what I said about De Jong barely winning the ball. The only angle I'd seen the ball barely seemed to move. I've just managed to see a clip again and he did win the ball and divert it to a Citeh play, so in that it was a "good" tackle. My problem with De Jong's challenges are simply that he goes in to take man and ball each time.
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| Quote RedTez="RedTez"Liverpool are big enough to earn the revenue they need to compete. Smaller clubs need money thrown at them - Chelsea, City etc. Should the new owner rid the club of debt, Liverpool will be on the road to recovery.
On the upgarde of Anfield - how much could they it extend by?'"
Easily 15k
They could do an OT style rebuild of the Anny road and having the road go under the stand.
Pretty sure the club owns the houses at the back of the main stand which have just be left to ruin so that could lead to them adding to that.
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| Quote Wire_85="Wire_85"Easily 15k
They could do an OT style rebuild of the Anny road and having the road go under the stand.
Pretty sure the club owns the houses at the back of the main stand which have just be left to ruin so that could lead to them adding to that.'"
You'd think that's a sensible option then. 60k, full house every week, jobs a good 'un.
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| Quote RedTez="RedTez"Liverpool are big enough to earn the revenue they need to compete. Smaller clubs need money thrown at them - Chelsea, City etc. Should the new owner rid the club of debt, Liverpool will be on the road to recovery.
On the upgarde of Anfield - how much could they it extend by?'"
Chelsea had an income of £149m to Liverpool's £122m when Liverpool won the CL on 2004/05.
The following figures are in Euros:
In 2007/08 Chelsea 268.9 Arsenal 264.0 Liverpool 210.9
2006/07 Chelsea 283.0 Arsenal 263.9 Liverpool 198.9
For the last season Chelsea just edged Liverpool. Obviously last season was slightly different because Chelsea got knocked out of the first round of the knock out stages and Liverpool went into the Europa League when they didn't make it out of the group stages.
But I know you mancs and the scousers have a "You suck me and I'll suck you" relationship.
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| Quote RedTez="RedTez"You'd think that's a sensible option then. 60k, full house every week, jobs a good 'un.'"
They're getting the building work done for free, are they? They're going to fill a 60,000 seat stadium with the squad they have and not have to significantly strengthen the side?
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| Mancs turnover £286 million
£100m operating profit
Yet still make £83m loss due to debts.
Get rid of the debts they would be unstoppable money wise.
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| 3/4 of 'facts' are made up.
87% of all people know that.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"They're getting the building work done for free, are they? They're going to fill a 60,000 seat stadium with the squad they have and not have to significantly strengthen the side?'"
Of course they're not going to get it done for free. You being silly now, petal. It would be cheaper than building a new stadium though, no? And yes, the vermin probably would still fill it with the current squad. But the takeover is all about clearing the debt and making funds available, not Abramovich / Mansour funds, but funds all the same.
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| Quote RedTez="RedTez"Of course they're not going to get it done for free. You being silly now, petal. It would be cheaper than building a new stadium though, no? And yes, the vermin probably would still fill it with the current squad. But the takeover is all about clearing the debt and making funds available, not Abramovich / Mansour funds, but funds all the same.'"
But Liverpool will need 'Mansour funds' to build a competitive playing squad.
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| Quote Enfield Exile="Enfield Exile"But Liverpool will need 'Mansour funds' to build a competitive playing squad.'"
Its not as if they've not had green to spend though over the past 5 years or so.
What is the spends of PL teams since 1992?
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| £83m loss? Get Ocean Finance on the phone...
Can any United supporter (anyone apart from Scouse Mark) confirm whether or not United received some, or all, of the AON sponsorship money upfront?
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| Quote Enfield Exile="Enfield Exile"But Liverpool will need 'Mansour funds' to build a competitive playing squad.'"
Not really 3-4 players would do the trick along with a good manager.
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| Quote Enfield Exile="Enfield Exile"£83m loss? Get Ocean Finance on the phone...
Can any United supporter (anyone apart from Scouse Mark) confirm whether or not United received some, or all, of the AON sponsorship money upfront?
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Yes they did. The first years I believe. We're in deep s**t.
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| Quote Enfield Exile="Enfield Exile"£83m loss? Get Ocean Finance on the phone...
Can any United supporter (anyone apart from Scouse Mark) confirm whether or not United received some, or all, of the AON sponsorship money upfront?
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Keep an eye on this over the next couple of days for some analysis on the United figures [urlhttp://andersred.blogspot.com/[/url
There's also some interesting comments from Tampa Bay Bucs fans at the bottom of this article which is linked in teh above blog [urlhttp://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/aug/25/271832/are-glazer-loan-delinquencies-problematic/[/url
Despite the announced loss by United, get your David Gill & Fergie cliché bingo cards at the ready.
"The debt is not a problem."
"The Glazers have been fantastic owners."
"Never been denied funds for the right player."
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I'm not his biggest fan by a long stretch, but the witch hunt over a perfectly legal tackle is just another example of the press looking to put the boot in on us at every possible chance.
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Aah yes, the mythical anti city media witch hunt card. 
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Quote The Boy TC="The Boy TC"Keep an eye on this over the next couple of days for some analysis on the United figures [urlhttp://andersred.blogspot.com/[/url
There's also some interesting comments from Tampa Bay Bucs fans at the bottom of this article which is linked in teh above blog [urlhttp://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/aug/25/271832/are-glazer-loan-delinquencies-problematic/[/url'"
I am sure a post on the Swiss Ramble blog will appear within a week or so ( swissramble.blogspot.com/).
He writes some excellent articles on football finance - easy to understand and very well written. His work is shamelessley copied by the better newspapers.
Quote The Boy TCDespite the announced loss by United, get your David Gill & Fergie cliché bingo cards at the ready.
"The debt is not a problem."
"The Glazers have been fantastic owners."
"Never been denied funds for the right player."
etc etc etc'"
LOL
I can imagine a few of the muppets on Red Cafe still think everything is rosy.
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Quote The Boy TC="The Boy TC"Keep an eye on this over the next couple of days for some analysis on the United figures [urlhttp://andersred.blogspot.com/[/url
There's also some interesting comments from Tampa Bay Bucs fans at the bottom of this article which is linked in teh above blog [urlhttp://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/aug/25/271832/are-glazer-loan-delinquencies-problematic/[/url'"
I am sure a post on the Swiss Ramble blog will appear within a week or so ( swissramble.blogspot.com/).
He writes some excellent articles on football finance - easy to understand and very well written. His work is shamelessley copied by the better newspapers.
Quote The Boy TCDespite the announced loss by United, get your David Gill & Fergie cliché bingo cards at the ready.
"The debt is not a problem."
"The Glazers have been fantastic owners."
"Never been denied funds for the right player."
etc etc etc'"
LOL
I can imagine a few of the muppets on Red Cafe still think everything is rosy.
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| Quote Karlos13="Karlos13"Aah yes, the mythical anti city media witch hunt card.
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There has been, mate. It's been a disgrace. Maybe it comes with the territory of being a high profile club, I don't know. Listen to Alan Green when we are playing. Actually, listen to him when we are not playing and he still manages to throw in plenty of digs. The other day, he called us, with plenty of venom I may add, "that Arabic outfit". He even criticised us for wanting to pay Barca 90m Euro for Pique. It was a rumour started in the Daily Star or Sun that has not been corroborated by any other journalist!!
Some of the nonsense recently written about us, includes, "Micah Richards banned from smiling and laughing during City training sessions".
My favourite is when City were criticised for spending money on transfer fees because hospital wards in Surrey were being closed.
TBH a few people down here have commented on the over-reaction of the press to the De Jong tackle.
Thanks to your accounts being published (reported as a £100m profit on SSN hahahaha. Is that not bias?) teh De Jong story has been pushed off the back pages, so to speak. Although Newcastle are doing their best to stoke up the fire every coupe of days or so.
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