Don't bother mate. The Pats fans say they don't care about the MVP awards etc because they win Superbowls but duly go on and on about Manning all the time. Cancel the award for the next few years, it's got Bradford written all over it

MVP is a nothing award really though isn't it? What's so great about an award for one person on the team when there's a Lombardi to be won.




Misfits like Benjarvus Green-Ellis and Danny Woodhead? both QB's are great and can make any receiving corp look good.

Why do you and LFC continually bang on about it and Manning's victories then? It's not a nothing award. It is terribly biased towards QB's but it's still a hell of an achievement. Has Peyton Manning deserved all his victories, probably not but it's a QB league and he's a very popular player. Ray Lewis should have won it the season the Ravens won the SB but he was overlooked as he's a defensive player.

Nothing award, no. Poorly awarded, yes. It might as well be most valuable QB.

Which is why OPOTY and DPOTY are better suited awards imo, the MVP should be renamed something else and used exclusively for QB's, putting it on par with and leaving OPOTY and DPOTY for the outstanding seasons of other players who don't get the recognition deserved with the MVP award.

Are Chicago resting their starters? Paddypower have them +10 against the Pack.

Dunno, but apparently loads of people betting on Carolina upsetting the Falcons.

I doubt they will.

They could still get the #1 seed. If Atlanta lose to Carolina and Tampa beat New Orleans in the 6pm games and Chicago beat us they would be #1. Either way they will know what they need to do before they play us at 9:15, so i don't see how anybody can predict if they will rest/pull their starters.

I'm not good with odds but i assume +10 means they expect us to win by 10 or more? That is ridiculous odds in our favour.

Looks like the Seahawks can't decide whether to start with Hasselbeck or Whitehurst for the crunch game against the Rams.

Having practised all week with Whitehurst it will be a real knock to his confidence if Pete Carroll puts a patched up Q.B on at the start. I understand Hasselbeck's experience but he is past his best now,maybe a loss against the Rams would put them in a better position to pick up a decent Q.B in the draft.

And if we beat the Saints today we will have too. We have been within a score of every "good" team that has beaten us since Blount came in. It's not like we've been blown out. The signs are there. We just need to push on. And had Talib not been injured against ATL we would have beaten them because he had shut White out in that game. It's only when he went off that they started to get a bit of momentum going.

Anyway, I like the Giants vendetta against us on here

I think it shows you're a tad nervous about tonight

Bloody inactives, had to make a last second replacement in the RLFans league before the final, and in my other league where i'm in the final, had to change my QB, RB and WR.