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| HBK = best in ring performer of all time.
Alberto Del Rio = Best WWE up and comer for 5 years.
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| Quote: MadDogg "HBK
I don't know why WWE don't try and sign more stars from Mexico, give them a couple of years in FCW to learn the USA style and call them up.
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| Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "I don't know why WWE don't try and sign more stars from Mexico, give them a couple of years in FCW to learn the USA style and call them up.'"
Well, if Russo was still at WWE it'd be down to his casually racist belief that american fans only want to see american wrestlers
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| Quote: MadDogg "HBK
Dont think you can argue with either of those statements. Del Rio is a pheomenal talent, not only does he have the in-ring skills, but has the mic ability to go with it. Great to watch, and hopefully he'll win the RR and get a deserved title shot.
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| Quote: AaronBull "Dont think you can argue with either of those statements. Del Rio is a pheomenal talent, not only does he have the in-ring skills, but has the mic ability to go with it. Great to watch, and hopefully he'll win the RR and get a deserved title shot.'"
Well yeah. That's because he's actually earned his spot, he's not some guy who's spent 3 weeks in a development territory then get shoved on TV before he's ready. Del Rio has a family background in pro-wrestling and a background in amateur wrestling. He's been doing it for 10 years before coming to WWE.
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| Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "I don't know why WWE don't try and sign more stars from Mexico, give them a couple of years in FCW to learn the USA style and call them up.'"
Have to disagree with that bit Jeff - why not let them work their own (Mexican style) on WWE TV, which would offer fans something new and fresh, + help invigorate WWE's stale product. WCW did it in the 90's with Psychosis, Juventud Guerrera, Mysterio Jr etc and it is credited with helping WCW become the number one company in the world (until WWE's Attitude Era officially began in 9icon_cool.gif.
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| Quote: Roofaldo "Well yeah. That's because he's actually earned his spot, he's not some guy who's spent 3 weeks in a development territory then get shoved on TV before he's ready. Del Rio has a family background in pro-wrestling and a background in amateur wrestling. He's been doing it for 10 years before coming to WWE.'"
In Vince Mcmahon Goldfish Bowl World (TM) that means Del Rio had no previous experience before WWE then.
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| Quote: Roofaldo "Well, if Russo was still at WWE it'd be down to his casually racist belief that american fans only want to see american wrestlers'"
Russo would have booked RAW with 3 title changes, 2 face/heel turns, a funny backstage segment involving someone leaving a smell in the bathroom, then whipping a black man in the centre of the ring.
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| Quote: Steve51 "Russo would have booked RAW with 3 title changes, 2 face/heel turns, a funny backstage segment involving someone leaving a smell in the bathroom, then whipping a black man in the centre of the ring.'"
Before David Arquette beat HHH, Big Show, Taker & Kane in a 4-on-1 match.
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| Quote: Roofs "Have to disagree with that bit Jeff - why not let them work their own (Mexican style) on WWE TV, which would offer fans something new and fresh, + help invigorate WWE's stale product. WCW did it in the 90's with Psychosis, Juventud Guerrera, Mysterio Jr etc and it is credited with helping WCW become the number one company in the world (until WWE's Attitude Era officially began in 9icon_cool.gif.'"
Because unless they were working with someone from Mexico, which, if they get called up to the main roster may not happen, they will need to know how to work the North American style. Guys like Jericho can do both, which is good. But guys like Triple H wouldn't want to do many Lucha spots, thus meaning if they can't work well in the American style, they probably wouldn't be able to put on great matches.
The lucha style is completely different to any other style of wrestling, and from what i've heard over the years, it is the hardest to master and it is more difficult for a major star in Mexico to make it big in other markets, simply because of the vast differences in styles.
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| Well, as many guessed there's a new "Nexus" being formed on Smackdown tonight. Or rather they've already done it on Tuesday.
Ah the joy of tape.
speaking of which rlVal Venus tells us what he thinks of the Hardysrl
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| Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "Because unless they were working with someone from Mexico, which, if they get called up to the main roster may not happen, they will need to know how to work the North American style. Guys like Jericho can do both, which is good. But guys like Triple H wouldn't want to do many Lucha spots, thus meaning if they can't work well in the American style, they probably wouldn't be able to put on great matches.
The lucha style is completely different to any other style of wrestling, and from what i've heard over the years, it is the hardest to master and it is more difficult for a major star in Mexico to make it big in other markets, simply because of the vast differences in styles.'"
Agree with what you're saying mate (a Mexican guy needs to be flexible to work with American guys, true), but do you agree that WWE are too tunnel-visioned with their attitude that if you have a unique style that is different to theirs (but still American, e.g. CM Punk in the beginning) that you "don't know how to work"?!
IMO wrestling should be a variety show - great heavyweight matches, great tag-team matches, great women's matches, great high-flying cruiserweight matches, etc etc. WWE shoot themselves in the foot with their beliefs.
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| Quote: Roofaldo "Well, as many guessed there's a new "Nexus" being formed on Smackdown tonight. Or rather they've already done it on Tuesday.
Ah the joy of tape.
speaking of which rlVal Venus tells us what he thinks of the Hardysrl'"
Now THAT is a shoot!
Thanks mate, great listen.
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| Quote: Roofs "Now THAT is a shoot!
I'm not sure I agree with his assessment that the Hardy's only got into WWE because of Hayes and haven't paid any dues. Both Hardys were no-name jobbers for WWE for a couple of years before getting full time contracts.
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| Quote: Roofs "Agree with what you're saying mate (a Mexican guy needs to be flexible to work with American guys, true), but do you agree that WWE are too tunnel-visioned with their attitude that if you have a unique style that is different to theirs (but still American, e.g. CM Punk in the beginning) that you "don't know how to work"?!
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