cm punk, becoming full on messiah gimmick,

i noticed he had the stigmata drawn on his coverings last week.


Tell you what, that stuff with husky harris was a bit rough to watch.

Are you insane? He's fantastic on the mic, you're completely wrong about HHH IMO - it was the other way round (Michaels was the guy who HHH learned from and should thank for getting on the map around 1997).

Re in the ring, you must be joking with that too.

Just remembered my favourite WWE moment of the past few years:

Charlie Haas impersonating Beth Phoenix

Right, ok. This is an internet forum and I respect your opinion, but I must disagree. Shawn Michaels is the greatest in ring performer of his generation. I have never - never seen a bad Shawn Michaels match. And when you consider the limitations of some of the guys he worked with, is quite astounding. He has worked angles with big guys like Diesel & Sid and smaller guys like Bret & Steve Austin. He's worked great brawls namely with Manking & Hunter. Great high glying matches & great technical wrestling matches.

His promo skills aren't the best, and he isn't a natural on the mic, but his promo skills are miles better than most of the roster these days. To say that Hunter carried him during the DX days with his promo skills is ludicrous, it was actually hunter who was made a superstar by associating with Shawn during that era! The push he got after Shawn left DX [After Wrestlemania 14] was astronomical. He was a main event player within 18 months of that.

Shawn's body of work remains there for all to see. He was the greatest in ring performer, possibly, of all time. He could put on a good match with anybody and put on a great match with most. Go back and look at all the Wrestlemania's Shawn was a part of and I bet you 80% of these are the best match on the card. Hell, look back over his singles career and i'll bet you'll see at least 70% of those where the best on the card.

The fact that such established and famous wrestlers cite Shawn as their main influence in getting into the business [Jericho, Lance Storm, Daniel Bryan to name just 3] shows just how highly regarded his skill is. And you forget, he has been wrestling for the last 10 years with screws in his back! Just thinking about that is insane. The performances he put on whilst being almost crippled at one point is nothing short of amazing. Shawn is and will always be one of, if not THE greatest of all time.

I look forward to your rebuttal as to why you feel he is 'no better than Christian'

Smackdown looks like it could be a interesting show from reading a few spoilers.

If I could just add an additional foot note to the whole Shawn Michaels thing, the guy could have a good match with anyone. His ladder match at WM10 stole the show. The Ironman match with Bret Hart was an incredible story match. Hell, he even had a good match against the Great Khali

Gutted, am attending the MEN Arena show, was thinking / hoping I would finally see Ric Flair wrestle live, probably never going to happen now. + never seen Tara wrestle live either. Should still be good though.

Yeah, little close to the bone for WWE PG.

Also, back on the HBK hating stuff, Gregory Helms has been tweeting about HBK and what he thinks of him

Is it true he hates him?

That's very believable actually. I know there's two sides to the story about HHH, HBK etc holding people back over the years but ATEOTD it's always down to whether you can or can't draw money. Bobby Heenan put it brilliantly when he was asked about Hulk Hogan. He said that the wrestlers who complained about Hogan saying he wouldn't work with them etc didn't do so because they couldn't draw money, no other reason. Classic quote - "Hogan would work with a grape if it'd draw money!"

However, HBK and HHH were hypocritical to slate Hogan for refusing to lose to HBK - HBK famously did that same thing at least a few times in his career.