Special rules apply when it's Stoke.

Well obviously there are Stoke rules, but I thought they applied both ways? i.e. You can tw*t them and they can tw*t you.

rl'we will win title'rl say Mancini

Bullish

This is correct. Mourinho would have the league pretty much wrapped up by now if he was in charge at city. Despite [imassive[/i spending city are having to crawl hands and knees to a player who went on strike for 3 months to rescue their season. All this in a season where their nearest challengers are £500m in debt and have had to recall a player out of retirement to make the numbers up in midfield. Chances are though that city will be back on top by the time Utd next play (Monday night) so the pressure will be back on us.

What's that I can smell?

Cows?

Sheep?

nah....it's bull5h1t

Alex Del Piero rolling back the years against Milan. Would love to see Juve back at the top.

Lefty, I don't know which part you refer to as bull**** (or whether you think all of it is), but its fair to say from an outsider's perspective, Mancini appears to be doing a great impression of Kevin Keegan, circa 1996....

If you fail this year, it won't be because of the squad you have, yours is significantly better than United's, but it will be because Fergie is a top boss and Mancini isn't.

As a Wire fan, surely you can see alarming similarities between City at present and Wire in those dark days before Simon Moran realised he needed a top coach to get the best out of the great squad he had assembled, with his hard earned cash?

Leeds edged out in a 10 goal thriller at Elland Road

Lionel Messi has become Barcelona's all time top goal scorer, with another hat trick. His 9th this season I think?

his record is quite ridiculous

Must win game for city tonight, must win. They simply can't afford to lose.

They must stay within at least 3 points of man united up until the derby game. If anythng more than a 3 points gap develops between now and the derby game, they've blown it. Because even if they did manage to win, United would simply win both their games after that, maintain the gap and claim the title. A similiar type of thing i recall has happened in title races with chelsea in recent years. (Not last year) Where United have gone to chelsea towards the end of the season, chelsea have pegged them back and everyones said ''my god united are going to blow it!!!'' But they've won their games thereafter maintained a gap and won the title.

City will need to win most of their remaining games to win the title because United will hardly drop any points now.

Which bit is bull5h1t? The bit about Mourinho or city being top before Utds next game? The rest of it is factual. Whether you care to accept it or not is down to you I suppose.

You can't make a comparison if they're not alike i.e. it took Fergie longer than a couple of seasons to win the league and he was backed with money, albeit not the same war chest as Mancini. You then make a comparison with Tony Smith who, if I'm not mistaken, hasn't won the league with Warrington yet. Why do you extend a different level of expectation and satisfaction to Tony Smith than you do with Mancini, given that (in RL terms) Smith has been giving plenty of financial backing from Moran? By your own standards you're effectively saying Smith has failed because you more or less said that if Mancini doesn't win it this year, in his second full season he'll have failed. If you're saying that Smith hasn't failed then it's very difficult to see how you can state that Mancini has if City don't go home with the league this year. After all, what did Smith win last year?

I love the FACTUAL bit of City's season needing rescuing, despite there being a quarter of a season to go, and being 1 point behind IF they win tonight.

How the club has had to go on hands and knees to beg Tevez to come back and "rescue" us. Tevez has a marketable value. If he doesn't play, his value will decrease even more. City need to get him in the shop window to sell him, hence gametime. Tevez will not be at City come August.

Oh, and our forward line are really lacking goals, aren't they?, with 3 of them in the top 10 Prem Div scorers.


Whether you care to accept THESE points, I really couldn't give a stiff one

Smith hasn't failed when you see where he has took Wire from and to where they now are, when you consider the competition and also the salary cap.

Mancini will have, because he has had a massive advantage over the competition....The last time anybody had this type of advantage was Mourinho at Chelsea (2 titles) and Dalglish at Blackburn (1 title).

A half decent manager would have this title tied up by now.