I think the fact he's gone to play for Luis Enrique has an interesting sub-plot, with Guardiola leaving at the end of next season a good season at Roma could make him a front runner for that job - as with Guardiola before him he's done a very good job with Barcelona B.

Fair do's, he just doesn't impress me when he eventually did get some game time for Barca. He lacks that something for me, but as you say he's still only young. I prefer this Kerrison who Barca have in their ranks at the minute, he's only 21 and currently on loan at Santos, he'll be a very good player, IMO.

Isn't Kerrison the seal dribbling guy? If anything, I'd say he's the more overrated of the two. He hasn't achieved half as much as Bojan (and he's only 20).

Catalancs, have Malaga signed Carzola yet? We go Malaga each year and I'm loving there new ownership and the players they are bringing it. Got to be looking for a Champs League spot this year/next.

Cazorla? I read a couple of days ago that Madrid were still interested but the Villareal president was sticking to his guns to either ensure a big price or that he stays at El Madrigal. I'd be very surprised to see him at Malaga next season. I think Malaga need a big season or maybe two before they can start signing players like Cazorla. By big I mean qualifying for Europe while making an impact in the league and getting to the final of the Copa del Rey.

As for Keirrison, I'm with inside man. There was a lot of noise when he signed and he was seen as one for the future (by me at least), but limited football in Portugal and Italy haven't helped his development. I may be wrong but I don't think he's ever played a competitive game for Barça and unless he has an absolute stand out season at Santos I don't think he ever will.

He is, and he hasn't as he's struggled to get into the side, as a wide men it would mean moving one of Pedro or Messi to accomodate him, that's why I'm looking forward to seeing who Guardiola removes to fit Sanchez in. You could be right, I just guess it's abit like the Bojan one for me, he's quite young yet so lets see how he matures and whether he becomes a real good footballer.


They [Malaga] were definitley interested and apparantley bid 20M Euros. A quick look online and it seems Cazorla wants to stay with Villarreal. They've been linked with quite a few players, apparantley they made a 35M bid for Sneidjer. You know, I read somewhere that they were reportedly tracking Tevez's movement, now that Corinthians have pulled out, I wouldn't be suprised if they came in and made a cheeky bid, apparantley Tevez has a place there and loves going.

Any city fans on here got this membership: mcfc.co.uk/Tickets-and-Membershi ... s/Superbia Seems a strange way of doing things?

Any city fans on here got this membership: mcfc.co.uk/Tickets-and-Membershi ... s/Superbia Seems a strange way of doing things?

The seal dribbler is/was Kerlon.

I disagree, I don't think he'll offer much more than Jags except obviously playing longer because he's younger. I still Jags is better, much better.



I think you're putting to much emphasis on his age and his lack of CL experience, a lot of players don't have a lot of experience either but they cope and Jagielka would too. Yes, centre halves do go cheaper but that doesn't mean we should under value our best players. Jags is widely expected to be out next captain and still have 4-6 years in him easily, so maybe just taking the money and running isn't the best option. He's struck up a cracking partnership with Distin and I wouldn't want to see it broken. I think realistically Jags is worth £8-£10m but why shouldn't we increase that by a good few million like other clubs do.



I know that all to well mate but say we sell Jags for £10m we'd have to spend at least half of that replacing him so why bother, there's no point in selling for an amount like that. Say we sell for £15-£18m then we could by one or two if not more players. As for the last sentence why should we cash in at all? we also need some stability especially at the back so I'd rather Jags saw his career out at the club, as captain, anyway.

Matter of opinion, but I feel Cahill is just short of a bit more experience. Good speed, decent on the ball, strong, good in the air, etc.



I'm putting emphasis on it because they're big factors. If Wenger pays £18m for Jagielka, next summer aged 30, he'll be worth £10m (inflated), the year after £7m and the year after that nearer to nothing. If Wenger signed Cahill, he could get the best part of 10 years from him, with Jagielka, it's the best part of 5 or 6 years from him. Age is one of the biggest determining factors of any transfers. If Lescott was 29 was Sparky lost the plot, he would have gone for half of that fee. It's just the way things work.

Jagielka's biggest factors in determining his fee, from an Everton standpoint, are his importance to the side and his overall ability. He's a good player, not world class, but a good player, whilst he could probably be deemed a key player at Everton. For that reason, a player who's probably worth £10m goes up to about £14m-£15m. Everton don't need to sell, but, at the same time, in the back of theirs and Moyes' mind, they'll know Jags' fee will only go down, and Moyes seems to get the 'selling at the right time' thing right most times. If Moyes got £15m for Jags, he could invest that throughout the squad more, IMO. (If he gets it to invest that is)

I think Jags offers all those qualities too, Wenger would get 6 years out of Jags too.



I don't see how you can predict future prices on a players age though, I can see what you mean that their value will drop the older they get but to actually put figures out there and say he'll be worth so much means nothing. It'll mainly depend on how he's playing at the time. It is a big factor but the way you mention it in previous posts it's as if it's the main factor in a transfer.



I think we're on the same page here because my last paragraph in my post last night said more or less the same thing, firstly you were saying we should sell for £10m now you're saying £15m - make your mind up I don't think Jags will be sold because they way you're looking at it is as if he's going to leave the club eventually so sell now while his price is as high as it'll be but I don't think Jags will go, he could see his career out here if he wants too - he'd be captain within 2 years when Neville goes and would more or less be guaranteed a run in the first team until he retires so there's no need to sell but orignally you said we should sell at £10m but we'd need to spend at least half of that if not more replacing him so it's pointless because it leaves no money to bring anyone else in, however, should that price rise to £15m-£18m it may be worth listening too, replace Jags and then bring other players in too but otherwise I can't see Moyes not considering it.

If he's going to sell to reinvest he'd be better off selling Rodwell, I don't want him to go, but we'd probably get at least £20m if not more which could really strengthen out finances.

Dan, I never said you should sell at £10m. Read the post properly

I said £10m isn't a bad fee, which it isn't, but some were reacting as though Arsenal were light years away from his true value. I was arguing that asking for £15m would be inflated because his truer value is near to £10m, purely because of his age and experience, two of the biggest factors determining a fee after form and ability.