This is where you go wrong you see. You have a [idifferent[/i opinion on Spurs players than myself. However you also tie yourself in knots by one minute saying the likes of Palacios cannot do this and that and then state they are a factor in our improvement.

I'm happy to debate the merits of any Spurs player you like, however the chances of agreement are slim as I don't happen to agree that they are all garbage.

Palacios serves a purpose. He gets in the way and adds physicality and an athleticism in midfield, and he has freshened up the midfield. It allows Lennon and Modric to get forward a bit more. Now I don't particularly rate Modric. He's not a bad player but to me he is simply too physically weak, and just doesn't do enough. He's overrated. If I had a choice of 5 Spurs players I would not choose him. I would much rather have Corluka, King, Keane, Lennon and Woodgate.

I think as teams suss out the Spurs' midfield that includes Palacios, Spurs wil find games a tad more difficult.

Regarding our previous on King, I never once said that King is not a very good defender. I have always rated King. However, I don't think he is anywhere near as good a Ferdinand. Camel Gob is IMO the best centre-half in the world. Quite why you think I hold this view because I am anti-Spurs, I don't know. After all, I rate Ferdinand very highly yet he plays for a club I don't particularly like.

i certainly don't rate king as a centre back, terry, ferdinand and carragher are streets ahead of him and then there are the foriegners...vidic, carvallho, agger, toure, gallas, skirtl, johnny evans, etc etc etc etc.

Yes please indeed! If we can get him below £20mill I'd be well impressed. A good attacking outlet and will provide us with a few more options.

Plus another striker.

Palacios provides Spurs with something they have needed for 10 years and more. He stiffens the midfield up hugely. He is a good ball winner and offers the simple pass to the more creative players. Simple it may sound but there are numerous players who cannot do this. He is the single biggest reason for our upturn for me and I am delighted we got him. He also looks like he likes having a go at goal as well which can only be a bonus once he gets settled. Lennon has improved through his basic skills being improved, not because of Palacios; Lennon went forward equally as much before his arrival.

I cannot take you seriously over Modric at all. The bloke can do everything with the ball. He is only slight but once he is put in the hole behind the front next season I see no reason why he cannot succeed. His improvement has been huge since Redknapp came and I see him scoring a few goals as well. His 'weakness' hasn't hindered him very often this year, which coincidentally is his first year in what is a very tough league. To suggest you 'dont rate him at all' when his performances on the International stage and at his club sides show otherwise is madness, apparently Juventus are chasing him for next season as well. It also wouldn't surprise me if we see Chelsea make an attempt to freshen up their side.



Maybe so but that works for all teams. Spurs have the makings of a very good side. They have a strong spine through the middle of the side and with an option down the left brought in for next year hopefully we look like we can defend and score goals.



Ferdinand is obviously a fine defender, however I rate King very highly also and so do most football folk. His injuries have limited him, I genuinely believe without them he would right now represent the pinnacle of defending in this country.

Collectively; maybe not. On an individual player basis; totally deluded.

Modric will never cut it playing in the Premiership as a midfielder. he is too easily overrun. Play him in a position where it isn't that easy to pick up and he can pick out a pass and run at defenders, then he will shine.

He'd be good in Gerrard's role, behind Torres...

well liverpool can take modric then and liverpool can give gerrard to man utd

TBH he rarely tackles an opposition player without a giving away a free-kick. Sometimes just getting in the way and being goal-side is enough.



Lennon has had a good three or four months. I have always liked him, although his final ball has worsened as he has got older. The main reason why he is playing well is because Redknapp is getting him to play to his strengths. Previously Jol (in his last season) and Ramos were encouraging him to go inside the full-back (probably because his final ball wasn’t great), and he was nowhere near as effective.

When his upturn in good form started, he was playing against weaker teams. However, since he now has an insurance in midfield, he is performing well against the better teams. He was a bit disappointing on Saturday but at least his ‘form’ put off Cashley from going forward. TBH apart from the collective defensive unit of Spurs, and Gomes, no-one played particularly well.

The sooner Lennon stops hanging around with Huddletsone, the better he will get.




Juventus are interested? Is this the club who have Camronesi (sp?), possibly the worst player to ever get an Italian cap?

Regarding Modric’s form for club sides Maybe so but that works for all teams. Spurs have the makings of a very good side. They have a strong spine through the middle of the side and with an option down the left brought in for next year hopefully we look like we can defend and score goals. '"

IMO he can only play as a trequartista. If he is going to play the No10 position next season, then who will play upfront. Can Keane or Defoe play as the striker in that formation? Can Redknapp afford to have Keane and Defoe on at the same time?

If Defoe and/or keane are not going to start games, they are going to be brassed off as they both disliked the fact that they were often (Keane) or occasionally (Defoe) a substitute.

I don't see why Keane and Defoe won't play togehter. Defoe is obviously an out-and-out striker, Keane less so. Don't forget when Keane first turned up at Wolves, he was a front man pure and simple, he has added to his game as the years have passed.

Bent is the odd man out and for whatever reason I don't see Redknapp keeping Pavlyuchenko.

That is absolute rubbish. All defensive minded midfielders are going to give free kicks away, if you can't see that then debate isn't possible.



Lennon has never been able to provide a decent final ball consistently, its his biggest letdown. I agree that he is obviously being told to make the byline more, however the last month or so his involvement is clearly more and his final ball has shown improvement. His improvement for me is being given the ball in space more, basically because of Modric doing so.



Didn't play particularly well yet beat 3rd in the league a week after beating 4th in the league away from home ? I'm happy with that.

Now, now...

Not at all. Sometimes it is okay to give away a free-kick. The best know when to do this. Palacios just just bundles in. He also goes to ground far too easily. Not a good idea if you are defending against a team who are hitting you on the break.



I cannot see how Lennon has improved because of Modric. Modric has had about 4 or 5 decent games this season - all recently. Lennon has played well on at least 15 occasions, with our without Modric on the pitch.




Your defence won you the game. They played very, very well as a unit. I didn't say the team played badly, I said that no players in particular stood out. A big difference.




I remember watching the Euros, and opinion was split on him. Some felt he was anonymous. I thought he was poor.



I still think that his ability has been exaggerated, mainly through hype. Don't forget that some players have gone for very high fees, Lee Bradbury and Mattius Vuoso being good examples.

All Spurs fans I know, state that Keane and Defoe, cannot work together. They have seen it before. Two midgets upfront will get eaten alive in this league. I just cannot see an attack that lacks physical presence and aerial threat being successful. Spurs wouldn't have an out-ball with those playing together.

I have seen it with City for a while now, without a presence upfront, you will struggle. We are the prime example of that.



I like Keane but IMO he's not a No10. I would think that Benitez has the same opinion. The further Keane is away from goal, the less effective he becomes as a player.





It depends what he wants from a front man. I think Bent has talent (somewhere) but for me the Russian doesn't appear to know what he is doing. He's like a headless chicken.