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Quote: Tom Brady "You have actually heard it yourself? Why should all other fans be tarnished with the same brush as those who want to give it the memorial it deserves.'"


Yes I have seen and heard it like I said in my last post, not all fans are the same I know that but applause is wrong IMO should be silence or nothing the FA, LFC and HFSG have got this wrong.

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Quote: flipper "I'd go for Ireland over Modric every day of the week on this seasons form.'"


Me too.

Ireland is a better passer, he's an excellent defender and has a great engine.

Modric is like a rag doll. He's been effective in about 3 games.

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Quote: Wire_85 "Yes I have seen and heard it like I said in my last post, not all fans are the same I know that but applause is wrong IMO should be silence or nothing the FA, LFC and HFSG have got this wrong.'"


I get what you mean, I think it's aimed more at celebrating their lives more than anything.

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Quote: Stirlingshire Saint "EE gets his sly dig in here people. This is the attempt to get a reaction. '"


And being a deluded Spuds, I got you. I guess that means you lack intelligence too.


Quote: Stirlingshire Saint " Stephen Ireland more impressive than Modric this season ? Okay Mr Manchester City supporter. We'll take your word for it, although I suspect you may be the only person on earth to have this view. '"


Ireland is a better passer, better infront of goal, far superior defender and has a better engine.

Your delusional rantings know no bounds.


Quote: Stirlingshire Saint " King has never been a central midfielder, hence why he didn't impress there. I won't entertain the nonsense that he can't pass or carry the ball. Fancy one of the best attackling midfielders on earth making a centre half playing out of position look silly eh ? Who eva wud a thunk it ? '"


You said he was a ‘footballer’, intimating that he was skillful. I simply pointed out that he is a defender, and as a typical defender is a poor passer of the ball and is ineffective with the ball. He is far more effetive when he is without the ball.


Quote: Stirlingshire Saint " Marginally ?????!!!! Bwahahahaha. Try watching some of Tottenham before commenting. '"


Seen them more tha you, sadly. Your upturn in form has as much to do, if not more, with some presence in midfield (i.e. Wilson Palacios), Lennon’s form, Keane’s return and Bent’s mini-renaissance.


Where were you sat at WHL on Saturday? I was in the North Stand (bet you don’t even know the name that fans give to that stand), three seats away from the Block 19 entrance.

Quote: Stirlingshire Saint " Ferdinand is marginally better with the ball at his feet. King isn't prone to the lapses of concentration that Ferdinand is on the other hand. Ferdinand hasn't nearly had his career finished either. King is on a par with the bloke without training all week. '"


Marginally better? Are you going for understatement of the year?

Ferdinand is as skillful as any English footballer. He can do far more with the football than King could ever do.

King isn’t prone to lapses of concentration. Do I need to remind you of the two lapses King made this season that led directly to goals? I probably will have to as you don’t watch them very often.



What are you talking about ? He was injured so couldn't play, now he is obviously improving due to the lack of midweek football.

He’s been takinga wage knowing that he will never be fit enough to train and play more than once a week. All Spurs supporters know as a fact that King’s knee will never recover to allow him to play more than once a week.



Quote: Stirlingshire Saint " Again, I would suggest you actually watch some Tottenham games before making yourself look silly by posting about them on here.'"


You have made yourself look silly by saying that Ferdinand is only marginally more skillful than King? Not to mention you going on about Modric on the basis of about 3 decent games.

What pub do you drink in before the games?

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Quote: Stirlingshire Saint "

put in the kind of performance against Chelsea that Ireland could only dream of. '"


I went on Saturday, and have to say that appart from the goal, he did very little. Howegver, Harry's mates in the press made sure he go the plaudits. maybe you coudl list four or five things he did on Saturday. I'm all ears.

Ireland could blow that out of the water with about 15 of his performances this season. Try Schalke away and Arsenal at home as examples.

Your comment is an embarrassment.


Quote: Stirlingshire Saint "He has the same number of assists whilst Ireland has scored more goals.'"


Interesting that you use those stats, with Ireland being a mdfielder and Modric playing in a more advanced role. Ireland has consistently produced chances each season, and looks far more dangerous than Modric when he has the ball. He's only a kid and this is his first season playing in central midfield. Although this season he has been forced to play on the left and the right at times (e.g. Fulham away).

Ireland has looked better than Modric throughout the season. That's clear to all. Whether it's with or without the ball.

Modric was built up by Slaven Billic. He's not top quality, and never will be. Didn't you say the same about Dos Santos? Is he still at Ipswich?

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Quote: Enfield Exile "And being a deluded Spuds, I got you. I guess that means you lack intelligence too. '"


Oh please EE, do behave with the immature insults. It really isn't necessary, we've all gathered that you don't watch Tottenham and therefore have crazy views on them to air.


Quote: Enfield Exile "Ireland is a better passer, better infront of goal, far superior defender and has a better engine. '"


A better passer ?!?!?!?! The better engine and defender maybe but everything else is nonsense.

Quote: Enfield Exile "Your delusional rantings know no bounds. '"


Pot, Kettle and Black.


Quote: Enfield Exile "You said he was a ‘footballer’, intimating that he was skillful. I simply pointed out that he is a defender, and as a typical defender is a poor passer of the ball and is ineffective with the ball. He is far more effetive when he is without the ball. '"


He has the ability to get the ball down and give a simple pass. He is also handy at making ground up the field with the ball, albeit lesser so since his injury. By the way, I have never intimated that King is skillful, maybe in your mind.


Quote: Enfield Exile "Seen them more tha you, sadly. Your upturn in form has as much to do, if not more, with some presence in midfield (i.e. Wilson Palacios), Lennon’s form, Keane’s return and Bent’s mini-renaissance. '"


You posted Palacios cant pass, shoot etc yet now he is a factor in our upturn ? Make your mind up cockle. Certainly Lennon and Keane, not convinced with this renaissance from Bent, I haven't seen it.


Quote: Enfield Exile "Where were you sat at WHL on Saturday? I was in the North Stand (bet you don’t even know the name that fans give to that stand), three seats away from the Block 19 entrance. '"


Congratulations. Why were you as a Manchester City supporter at WHL to watch Spurs ?
I live in Scotland by the way, don't get down to watch them very often.


Quote: Enfield Exile "Marginally better? Are you going for understatement of the year?

Ferdinand is as skillful as any English footballer. He can do far more with the football than King could ever do.

King isn’t prone to lapses of concentration. Do I need to remind you of the two lapses King made this season that led directly to goals? I probably will have to as you don’t watch them very often. '"


2 lapses of concentration in an entire season ? Hold the phone !!!!!
Sorry I'm still laughing that Ferdinand is as skillful as [iany[/i English footballer.


Quote: Enfield Exile "He’s been takinga wage knowing that he will never be fit enough to train and play more than once a week. All Spurs supporters know as a fact that King’s knee will never recover to allow him to play more than once a week. '"


He probably won't. However Spurs choose to pay him his wage because he is invaluable to us and despite his injuries, the manager of England has just tried to call him up so he is therefore still considered in the best English centre halves.


Quote: Enfield Exile "You have made yourself look silly by saying that Ferdinand is only marginally more skillful than King? Not to mention you going on about Modric on the basis of about 3 decent games.

What pub do you drink in before the games?'"


I never even mentioned King and skillful in the same sentence you silly drama queen, you made this argument up. Modric equals Ireland in all but goal scoring in his first season in a new league and playing in the wrong position all season in a poorly performing side. I am not even going to debate Luka Modric and Stephen Ireland, stupid argument.

What pub do I drink in ?!?!?!?! What are you on about ?

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Quote: Enfield Exile "And being a deluded Spuds, I got you. I guess that means you lack intelligence too.
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You are in no position to call anyone deluded.

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Quote: *jonny* "Is there anyone on this thread that doesn't have beef with Enfield Exile?
I dont have a beef with him, I just think hes a good source of humour.

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Quote: Ian [77] ""Become a much better player?'"


Wonderfully reasoned argument there. icon_rolleyes.gif

The current England manager is picking Heskey - Davies is on current form the much better player and (despite being used out wide on occasions) is outscoring Heskey.

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Quote: WANDERER "Wonderfully reasoned argument there.
Davies isn't good enough to play for England.

The fact Davies may be in better form than Heskey at the moment is irrelevant. Heskey, for all of his faults, is an experienced international. To pick Davies now, a novice in relative terms, would be madness.

So, to sum up I wouldn't pick Davies for England because:-

a) He isn't good enough;
b) He has no experience

Good enough?

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Ireland could well end up being Man Citys Frank Lampard. When the investment arrived at Chelsea, he was an established Premierhsip player sure, but Chelsea fans were still struggling to understand the £11m tag etc. Under Ranieri and Mourinho he & JT became one of the most important people to Chelsea, and whilst plenty of other 'stars' came & went, they became the consistency, that everything was built around, and Lampards game improved, and he became a 20 goal man etc, I know folk don't rate him, but for Chelsea, for the last 5 years he's been immense.

Ireland has all the ingrediants to be a top player, if City become a top four club, he's one of the few they have capable of improving with them so to speak, and taking his game on. When I've seen him at times this year, he's been excellent.

Oh, and he needs to end his ROI exile.

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Quote: Ian [77] ""Davies isn't good enough to play for England.

The fact Davies may be in better form than Heskey at the moment is irrelevant. Heskey, for all of his faults, is an experienced international. To pick Davies now, a novice in relative terms, would be madness.

So, to sum up I wouldn't pick Davies for England because

Not really.

a) Matter of opinion. Even your own comments don't support that.
b) So we pick experience over form. We have friendlies, what the hell are they for?

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