1. I've never said Union is a better game...nor have I said it was perfect in any way. It is flawed.
2. The "Establishment ate my homework" stuff is rolled out far too much for anyone's liking....why do RL fans always bemoan the actions of the other code in "keeping it down" instead of brushing themselves down and getting on with the promotion of the game?

FFS......The RLWC has been going since 1954 in some way shape or form. From what I can gather from textbooks, reports and wiki is that more people attended the Union internationals in 2012 played featuring the teams ranked 1-11 by the IRB than have attended every game or every world cup since 1954.......this is where I believe that League is falling short.

You and I know that Union is gash by comparison, but it is convincing the British public that is the trick.......and Ireland v Australia at Thomond park in front of 9k ain't going to do it!

By the way....did THE Establishment make more SKY TV viewers tune in to the REPLAY of the Lions game the other week than watched either Superleague game LIVE?

Stop bemoaning the actions of those in the past and deal with the now......70,000 fans attend SL games most weeks...if each of them were to sell 8 tickets to friends in return for 2 freebies, you'd have sold out this RLWC ages ago.....instead, they've already started discounting the already discounted offers....

For what it's worth Gutterfax,I played union at various levels,I played union with someone who is in Frank Cottons all time England XV and I'm a Vice President of a Union Club - up til around level 3/4,union is a very good and varied game,with an exceptional strong social ethos.

That's a great way to put it.

A union v league debate. That's a move to the "other sports" forum.

Thank goodness for thread drift.

Yes, heaven forbid you'd have to actually respond to the initial point or do something about it.

It's fine, now we are all clear on what the forum's rules on blatant trolling are, i'll stop contributing sensibly and just start annoying people.

g-fax,

Why don't you put this passion and time into trying to get the French government to compensate French RL?

Also, most Pommies who have SKY are v.nationalistic, they'll watch that over and over again, a Welshie wrote the other day somewhere that he's watched the Wales v England 6N match this year about 20 times. Not due to the quality of the product but because it somehow makes him feel better, I detest nationalism. The reason my user name is such is so you have an idea where I'm coming from, view and historically wise. You know RL can't drive a hard negotiation, as they'll just sit back, cross their arms and say in a condescending way say, "So how many in the ABC demographic actually watch your game?"

But 'they' are fearful of RL, they keep an eye on what we're doing.

But I've noticed on leegunlimited.kom that you haven't posted anything on the NRL page just The F Club. So what does that say to me. Well obviously that you're a far bigger supporter of Union, obviously.

it says you need to speak to your doctor about short term memory loss

Good grief! That's not trolling, that's therapy.

Cheaper than a shrink, I suppose.

G-fax,

You did tell me to do some research into your posting history on LeegU, I did about 50 seconds of it. I've just found it difficult to get a feel as to where you're coming from that's all; as I read more of your posts I hopefully will, I suppose I've been suspicious of your sincerity on RL forums, if you'd have had my life you'd be suspicious too.

Gutters was banned for a few months on LU after he was caught using multiple accounts. The day after his ban expired he was back posting 10 anti-RL threads in a couple of hours lol

He's our own George Constanza, if he spent half as much time actually working as he does posting here and on other RL forums he'd probably be quite well off.

I am your own????????
Feeling the love Loxy......feeling the love

The thing is, trolling can be subjective.

What one person considers trolling, another might consider a fair point in a discussion.

Yes, you get the occasional idiot who will go onto opposition sites and slate them after they get beaten/off field problems etc, but most know to ignore them or in several cases begin mocking them back for using poor logic or limited facts, however this can lead to the person being mocked going off in a huff and locking the thread

1. I go on LU The Fight Club for fun......I make no bones about it. I was invited there to troll and I don't disappoint...they are that regretful that they banned me for 3 months for using the word "nip" to describe Japanese rugby, yet the constantly call me a thick paddy Irish troll.
2. I post about RL here....both the good stuff and the bad. Some posters, like the OP in this thread, attempt to tag me as a troll here in the hope of getting me banned.....most of the original trouble makers from the NRL boards here resent the fact that they are banned from this site...it is their stated aim to try and get me banned....this thread is a perfect example.
3. Aside from the NRL TV deal, RL as a professional sport is far from perfect. Neither is Union, the game I am supposed to represent, but whilst Union finds it's openly professional feet, it does have the mammoth International set up to tide it over.....league doesn't and as such, finds itself 90%+ reliant on Uncle Rupert's TV cash. Not sure about anyone else, but that to me is not a good business model.
4. League unlimited restricted my access to the fight club only as some form of punishment...the reality is, there is a far greater level of debate on this forum than there, which is what a forum is all about...debate and discussion. If we all agreed with each other we'd be as boring as bat!