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| Quote: flipper "Liverpool fans
1 premier league win in 2012
3 straight PL defeats for first time in 9 seasons
as of 9/3/11 - 42 points from 29 games
as of 9/3/12 - 39 points from 27 games
£110+M spent
are you making progress under KKK?
would anyone else other than KKK have been hounded out a la woy by now?'"
I'll roll out the cliches before you lot get started. There's no doubting we've underperformed in our results in the league, but it seems so silly to say 'don't just judge him by the results'. We've played well for long spells this season but haven't capitalised on form, I know it's a results based business, but Kenny's done so much right, we just haven't put the chances away. If we were playing poorly (we actually did today), I would definitely be voicing my worries more, but we've not played poorly. I keep telling myself we'll 'click' eventually, but it isn't going that way and we've definitely left it too late now if we do suddenly click.
Questions do have to be asked about the signings, whether it was he, Comolli, or both of them, I don't know, but we spent a lot on players never good enough for us, let alone overpaying for. I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is little to no value in signing players based in England. There is no minimising the risk, there is no instant impact, there is no 'Premier League proven guarantee' and there is absolutely no sense in spending £35m on a single player when so many areas are weak.
Although the results don't tell the story, we're definitely better off now than we were last year, but we've still immensely underachieved, regardless of the victory in the smallest cup competition.
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| Quote: Ajw71 "On a scouting mission for Man City? Lets face it, Utd will only sign the players City don't want for the forseeable future.'"
Not quite. United will only sign the players City don't sign, to stop other teams strengthening, due to bloody mindedness.
On a side note, Bloomberg are reporting that the Glazers are again looking to float on the Singapore SE.
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| Quote: Roddy B "I'll roll out the cliches before you lot get started. There's no doubting we've underperformed in our results in the league, but it seems so silly to say 'don't just judge him by the results'. We've played well for long spells this season but haven't capitalised on form, I know it's a results based business, but Kenny's done so much right, we just haven't put the chances away. If we were playing poorly (we actually did today), I would definitely be voicing my worries more, but we've not played poorly. I keep telling myself we'll 'click' eventually, but it isn't going that way and we've definitely left it too late now if we do suddenly click.
Questions do have to be asked about the signings, whether it was he, Comolli, or both of them, I don't know, but we spent a lot on players never good enough for us, let alone overpaying for. I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is little to no value in signing players based in England. There is no minimising the risk, there is no instant impact, there is no 'Premier League proven guarantee' and there is absolutely no sense in spending £35m on a single player when so many areas are weak.
Although the results don't tell the story, we're definitely better off now than we were last year, but we've still immensely underachieved, regardless of the victory in the smallest cup competition.'"
Roddy, if the problem is that of a recurring one, then surely it highlights a managers shortcomings?
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Redknapp looking more and more like an England manager.....
quite agree but who would you suggest would do a better job for England ?
I would bring back God (Hoddle) -forget his personal views and just let him get on with coaching a successful England team
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Roddy, if the problem is that of a recurring one, then surely it highlights a managers shortcomings?'"
The recurring problem is finishing. If a side defends well, creates a lot of chances and controls possession well, there is very little more a manager can do other than get on the field and put the chances in himself. He's tried pretty much every forward partnership possible, we can't get it in the net, which brings me more to the transfer policy.
As I said, I think Kenny is doing so many things right in his management and tactics; however, he and/or Comolli haven't signed well and it's really limiting our results. Kenny isn't faultless, of course not, and he continues to make mistakes, it happens, I just feel we're being punished for ours more than any other sides in the league.
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| Quote: Roddy B "The recurring problem is finishing. If a side defends well, creates a lot of chances and controls possession well, there is very little more a manager can do other than get on the field and put the chances in himself. He's tried pretty much every forward partnership possible, we can't get it in the net, which brings me more to the transfer policy.
As I said, I think Kenny is doing so many things right in his management and tactics; however, he and/or Comolli haven't signed well and it's really limiting our results. Kenny isn't faultless, of course not, and he continues to make mistakes, it happens, I just feel we're being punished for ours more than any other sides in the league.'"
Dalgleish was from a forgotten era and is behind the times when it comes to management. His signings have been awful and Comolli being paid money by Liverpool to do the job he does is absolutely comical. I think you were very bullish about his abilities when you signed him, were you not?
I'd even go as far as saying Everton will humiliate Liverpool on Tuesday, but there is the little problem of Dirk Kuyt and Liverpool being the luckiest team the world has ever seen, so I've no doubt you'll fluke a win.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Dalgleish was from a forgotten era and is behind the times when it comes to management. His signings have been awful and Comolli being paid money by Liverpool to do the job he does is absolutely comical. I think you were very bullish about his abilities when you signed him, were you not?
I'd even go as far as saying Everton will humiliate Liverpool on Tuesday, but there is the little problem of Dirk Kuyt and Liverpool being the luckiest team the world has ever seen, so I've no doubt you'll fluke a win.'"
Go on then, I'll bite; what's outdated about Kenny's tactics? Go on, I'd really like to read it. I guess us being the luckiest means that Everton are the unluckiest? Dear oh dear.
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| Quote: sanjunien "quite agree but who would you suggest would do a better job for England ?
I refer the Honourable Gentleman to my shortlist on page 443 of this thread, to do a better job than the Twitching Cockney
My money's on Gary Barlow. After doing charity walks up Kilamanjaro, organising Children in Need concerts, Queen's Diamond Jubilee concert, Queen's Diamond Jubilee song (with Lloyd Webber), the management of England's football team will be a mere bagatelle (mark my words, Gary Barlow wants to take over the world...and he wants a knighthood by the time he's 50......you heard it here first).
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| Quote: Roddy B "Go on then, I'll bite; what's outdated about Kenny's tactics? Go on, I'd really like to read it. I guess us being the luckiest means that Everton are the unluckiest? Dear oh dear.'"
I'd be inclined to be believe he's refering to Dalglish's transfer policy of bizarrely believing that signing British players is the way forward, similar to what he did 25 years ago when he signed Barnes/Beardsley/Houghton/Aldridge.
It worked then, but won't now, because football has moved on, and this is probably what the poster meant by Kenny being out of date.
As for Tuesday's derby, would an Everton win finally get even Kenny's loyalist followers questioning his future at the club??......(Not that I see it happening - It has a draw written all over it).
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| 13 points.
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "
just make sure you don't miss a dose of the medication....
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| Quote: sanjunien "
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| Quote: sanjunien "
Lefty is right, Barlow seems to be everybody's darling.. he'll get an MBE within a few years, MBE for services to going ''OHHHHHHHHH'' in songs probably
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| Cheers Swansea
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| TICK TOCK.
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