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| Fair play to Glen, at least he has an opinion and doesn't just repeat the bile printed in the media.
His point on McGrath was right, why did McGrath have to single Glen out for wearing the t-shirt and have a go at him over it? Race shouldn't matter in today's sport, it shouldn't matter that Glen is black, but McGrath had to single Glen out. Hardly fair. McGrath's response is pathetic to it to be honest, he's come out and said 'it saddens me that Glen Johnson has called me a racist', then proceeded to retweet somebody calling Glen Johnson a muppet. The man can't defend himself because Glen makes a valid point, all he can do is make points about 'bringing it up again'.
Glen doesn't say Luis didn't have a chance to shake his hand, Glen said Evra clearly didn't want to shake his hand, so why would Luis shake it? I'm tending to agree, to be honest, it wasn't as one-sided as the media made out, but then it never is.
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| Having met him yesterday, Phil Dowd is a quality bloke on and off the pitch. Took banter with good humour, gave us some back and even gave us a dodgy penalty in the varisty match. (We missed it, but it still annoyed Keele )
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| Quote: Roddy B "Fair play to Glen, at least he has an opinion and doesn't just repeat the bile printed in the media.
Glen doesn't say Luis didn't have a chance to shake his hand, Glen said Evra clearly didn't want to shake his hand, so why would Luis shake it? I'm tending to agree, to be honest, it wasn't as one-sided as the media made out, but then it never is.'"
Fair enough having an opinion, but is it that wise to come out with it, just weeks after your employer has had to carry out a huge PR exercise, trying to distance themselves from those very views?
As for the handshake and whether Evra was that keen to 'make up' with Suarez??....Well, considering it was Suarez who was the guilty party in this whole episode and Evra the offended upon, I'd be very surprised if Evra didn't harbourd a little resentment to the Uraguayan, and wouldn't expect a beaming smile and a lustily offered hand on his behalf.
Also, considering Suarez came out and admitted his refusal to shake, I'd say that Johnson's story is just a little far-fetched??
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| What happened to 'moving on'?
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| You cannot move on when such an outrageous injustice has been carried out.
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| How good were Athletic Bilbao to watch?
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| Ace. Will be following their results from now on, superb footballing team.
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| Mun-I-Ian was fantastic, Llorenty and Martinez also classy. Utd's attitude in europe has stunk this year, gone into every game far too complacent.
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| Quote: Matt23 "Ace. Will be following their results from now on, superb footballing team.'"
They have a very proud philosophy of only selecting Basque players, from their youth set up and surrounding Basque area.
Also they left Athletic, (as opposed to Athletico) in their name as a nod to the english ship builders from Sunderland who helped form the club.
They quite like the brits because of this too i believe.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Fair enough having an opinion, but is it that wise to come out with it, just weeks after your employer has had to carry out a huge PR exercise, trying to distance themselves from those very views?
As for the handshake and whether Evra was that keen to 'make up' with Suarez??....Well, considering it was Suarez who was the guilty party in this whole episode and Evra the offended upon, I'd be very surprised if Evra didn't harbourd a little resentment to the Uraguayan, and wouldn't expect a beaming smile and a lustily offered hand on his behalf.
Also, considering Suarez came out and admitted his refusal to shake, I'd say that Johnson's story is just a little far-fetched??'"
He probably shouldn't have said anything, but if you read the way the quotes are, it seems he's been answering questions more than in the sense of 'coming out and declaring whatever'. If I was him, I'd have just said 'I think everything on our side's been said, just get over it', but he obviously wanted to share his view on it, which I feel is completely up to him, considering he's come in for huge flack for siding with Suarez, he probably feels like he should air his views on it
I don't know how you can say Johnson's story is a little far-fetched, just watch the video, Evra's hand clearly isn't out to be shaken, he feels he put it down because he didn't want to shake his hand, if you think that's far-fetched, whatever, but I don't think it's too ludicrous to think that Evra's hand being lowered is because he didn't want to shake his hand, which is what Johnson says. Furthermore, Glen doesn't deny Suarez refusing to shake, Glen says he wouldn't have shook Evra's hand either if it was down by his side, which again is a fair point. He was wrong to say "Evra was up all night...etc".
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| what an exciting game, tremendous tempo, and illustrates that technique runs deeper in the spanish game than Real & Barca, I am sure if United had a half witted scouting system there could be some valueâ„¢ to be had that would solve the central midfield issues
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| just hope bilbao absolutely destroy manure next week. the arrogant fooookers.
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| First time I haven't been happy after an Athleti win. De Gea was United's best player and he had to be, I mean what were Anderson and Rafael doing for Munain's goal? Most people with an interest in Spanish football know about Llorente but I've been banging the drum for Munain for a while now. Last night wasn't his best game but he showed just how good he can be.
Fair play to the thousands of Athletic Club fans who made the trip over. They made it sound like a home game for the Basques.
If I'm going to try and salvage something positive, it would be that despite a woefully spiritless performance United only lost by one goal.
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| Quote: Catalancs "I mean what were Anderson and Rafael doing for Munain's goal?'"
No idea, schoolboy
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| Quote: Catalancs "First time I haven't been happy after an Athleti win. De Gea was United's best player and he had to be, I mean what were Anderson and Rafael doing for Munain's goal? Most people with an interest in Spanish football know about Llorente but I've been banging the drum for Munain for a while now. Last night wasn't his best game but he showed just how good he can be.
Fair play to the thousands of Athletic Club fans who made the trip over. They made it sound like a home game for the Basques.
If I'm going to try and salvage something positive, it would be that despite a woefully spiritless performance United only lost by one goal.'"
De Gea kept us in it, plain and simple, starting to earn his money and prove his doubters wrong. Rafael just standing there and watching Munain score would be lambasted in sunday league football, utterly woeful that. Those Athletic fans were LOUD.
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