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| Quote: Dead Man Walking "McDaniels really ballsed that one up. Way to go Coach.'"
I wonder what hes gonna do with Kyle Orton surely hes not gonna be his starter
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| Quote: LFCRhino "I wonder what hes gonna do with Kyle Orton surely hes not gonna be his starter
They have no other QB that I can recall of note so maybe Orton will start.
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| Quote: Dead Man Walking "They have no other QB that I can recall of note so maybe Orton will start.'"
I would have thought Denver would have asked for more picks instead of Orton if they didn't think he could be a starter for them.
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| They'll draft Sanchez and Orton will hold fort whilst he is eased into the role, hard to say where I stand on the McDaniels V Cutler situation..I can see Cutler's point but think he could have gone about it a bit better, saying that I think the Bears are head and shoulders above the others in that division, maybe they could go for Holt? Olsen came along nicely last year and Forte will be thier HB for years to come.
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| Quote: Tom Brady "They'll draft Sanchez and Orton will hold fort whilst he is eased into the role, hard to say where I stand on the McDaniels V Cutler situation..I can see Cutler's point but think he could have gone about it a bit better, saying that I think the Bears are head and shoulders above the others in that division, maybe they could go for Holt? Olsen came along nicely last year and Forte will be thier HB for years to come.'"
If they want Sanchez then they have to trade up. Stafford is going first and there are a number of teams before the Denver pick who could get Sanchez.
The Bears aren't head and shoulders above the rest of our division.
We have an equally good QB in Rodgers and a far better offence than Chicago, outside of RB. Our recievers are top notch and Chicago have none.
Chicago's defence was average last year and ours was poor. If we transition to the 3-4 (and get Raji for NT) solidly then i see no reason why we can't beat Chicago and win the division.
The Vikings are pretty good also.
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| Quote: ST_CONROY "If they want Sanchez then they have to trade up. Stafford is going first and there are a number of teams before the Denver pick who could get Sanchez.
The Bears aren't head and shoulders above the rest of our division.
We have an equally good QB in Rodgers and a far better offence than Chicago, outside of RB. Our recievers are top notch and Chicago have none.
Chicago's defence was average last year and ours was poor. If we transition to the 3-4 (and get Raji for NT) solidly then i see no reason why we can't beat Chicago and win the division.
The Vikings are pretty good also.'"
They had a shot at winning the North in the last week of the season, now they have a QB and the best special teams in the NFL.
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| Quote: Tom Brady "They had a shot at winning the North in the last week of the season, now they have a QB and the best special teams in the NFL.'"
That maybe so but they have no picks to improve a relatively average defence. They have no wide recievers so Cutler has not much to work with outside of what they get in the draft.
We have the ability to improve our defence, we played aweful and that is the only area we need to strengthen outside of depth at offensive tackle.
Best special team in the NFL...no
1 TD from a kick-off or punt return all year.
5th in kick return average (24.9 Yards)
28th in punt return average (6.7 Yards)
14th in total points (375)
0 onside kick offs recovered
9th in average kick yards (65.0 Yards)
90% field goal percentage (26 of 29 (7th overall))
28th in punt yards (41.2 Average)
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| Quote: ST_CONROY "That maybe so but they have no picks to improve a relatively average defence. They have no wide recievers so Cutler has not much to work with outside of what they get in the draft.
We have the ability to improve our defence, we played aweful and that is the only area we need to strengthen outside of depth at offensive tackle.
Best special team in the NFL...no
1 TD from a kick-off or punt return all year.
5th in kick return average (24.9 Yards)
28th in punt return average (6.7 Yards)
14th in total points (375)
0 onside kick offs recovered
9th in average kick yards (65.0 Yards)
90% field goal percentage (26 of 29 (7th overall))
28th in punt yards (41.2 Average)'"
Blocked kicks? kick off coverage? Also take into consideration the elements they play in for half the season.
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| Quote: Tom Brady "Blocked kicks? kick off coverage? Also take into consideration the elements they play in for half the season.'"
Blocked kicks- 2 (the same as Green Bay) whether that means they blocked two or had two blocked i don't know.
Kick coverage- they allow an average of 24.4 yards per kick which is 6th.
The elements have no consideration at all. Ridiculous claim, if anything the weather plays into their advantage.
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| Quote: ST_CONROY "Blocked kicks- 2 (the same as Green Bay) whether that means they blocked two or had two blocked i don't know.
Kick coverage- they allow an average of 24.4 yards per kick which is 6th.
The elements have no consideration at all. Ridiculous claim, if anything the weather plays into their advantage.'"
So kicking in gales and kicking in say a dome is the same? I'll leave it there if you honestly believe that the elements have no consideration in a kicking/special teams game there is no point in continuing the debate mate.
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| Quote: Tom Brady "So kicking in gales and kicking in say a dome is the same? I'll leave it there if you honestly believe that the elements have no consideration in a kicking/special teams game there is no point in continuing the debate mate.'"
No of course not. You said they were the best special teams and i proved that isn't the case. You were effectively saying that the weather is distorting the stats.
Every team has to play in varying conditions. Chicago has bad weather for maybe two games a year.
Are our stats pointless because we play at Lambeau in the winter? Pittsburgh in the rain? New York in the winter?
Of course elements have an influence on stats but in a positive manner for special teams IMO.
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| Quote: ST_CONROY "If they want Sanchez then they have to trade up. Stafford is going first and there are a number of teams before the Denver pick who could get Sanchez.
The Bears aren't head and shoulders above the rest of our division.
We have an equally good QB in Rodgers and a far better offence than Chicago, outside of RB. Our recievers are top notch and Chicago have none.
Chicago's defence was average last year and ours was poor. If we transition to the 3-4 (and get Raji for NT) solidly then i see no reason why we can't beat Chicago and win the division.
The Vikings are pretty good also.'"
How on earth do you come to that conclusion? I haven't checked the stats but Rodgers isn't up with Cutler? Is he?
Check this quote from NFL.com Senior Writer Vic CarrucciPresuming that all works as planned, the Bears clearly can thrive this season when you consider their soft schedule and the fact they have, by far, the best quarterback in their division.'"
I'm interesting to hear why you place Rodgers on the same plane as Cutler.
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| Quote: ST_CONROY "Blocked kicks- 2 (the same as Green Bay) whether that means they blocked two or had two blocked i don't know.
Kick coverage- they allow an average of 24.4 yards per kick which is 6th.
The elements have no consideration at all. Ridiculous claim, if anything the weather plays into their advantage.'"
Sorry Conners, but that's up there with your all time best pearlers:-
- 5 receiver sets in the snow
- Jim Sorgi is better than Dan Marino because SB rings are all that matter
Come on mate. Elements are a consideration in sport. You must agree with that, surely?
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| Cutler > Rodgers by a mile!
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| Quote: ST_CONROY "No of course not. You said they were the best special teams and i proved that isn't the case. You were effectively saying that the weather is distorting the stats.
Every team has to play in varying conditions. Chicago has bad weather for maybe two games a year.
Are our stats pointless because we play at Lambeau in the winter? Pittsburgh in the rain? New York in the winter?
Of course elements have an influence on stats but in a positive manner for special teams IMO.'"
Your wrong there.It's not called the windy city for nothing,if it isn't blowing a gale it's snowing during football season.
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