Which was my point.



Red Knights offer fair market value + Green/Gold = Glazers say "Thanks, but no thanks. We keep the club."

Red Knights offer fair market value + Green/Gold + Serious show of intent in the form of boycotts and financial withdrawal from the club = Possible success.



If the MU supporters can organise effective, widespread boycotts over a period of several matches then the Glazers won't have any other option but to accept an offer.

If MU supporters can organise supporters to not turn up to Old Trafford, then surely they can arrange a worldwide campaign for MU supporters not to watch those £5 a match TV games. Instead of treating overseas MU supporters as schitt on their shoe, they will include them in the worldwide campaign to take back their club.

The TV rights issue isn't going to be resolved if MU supporters mount a serious anti-Glazer campaign which puts the TV income in doubt.

Spot on - the turning point in that particular game (the goal being an equaliser for Arsenal who went on to win).

Wrong.

It started after Christmas. At that time United were top of the League, in the knockout stages of the European Cup and in the semi-final of the League Cup.

This all came about after the release of the financial figures of United, and the bond issue which mentioned the possible sale of Carrington.



A lot now depends on the Red Knights. If they can work up a viable agreement whereby they have the funds to make a bid for United, then MUST and the Red Knights will then come up with the next stage of the protest. ATM all they're wanting fans to do is to join MUST and get behind the GG campaign.

The self-importance of some fans eh

Out of the frying pan...?

The idea that United could be run successfully by a consortium of multi millionaires is laughable. It will be all sweetness and light initially but will descend into bickering acrimony within a couple of years, probably at the time when the Knights realise their £20m+ stake doesnt give them a say in who replaces Fergie.

Multi millionaires, with their associated egos, do not make good silent partners unless their investment is purely financial. Multi millionaire fans are even less likely to. They'll put in place governance arrangements to manage the club on a hands off basis but the minute that something controversial happens eg Rooney puts in a transfer it will fall apart.

How are Ebbsfleet doing these days?

So they simply came up with the idea and implemented it straight away. I don't buy it.

You only have to look at United's forums to see that the worry about the financial situation started when we came into money.

What a load of rubbish

United's funding streams don't rely on a few supporters refusing to turn up to games.

As for the individual TV deals, the amount of money that could be money made from attendances would be infinitesimal.

United are simply reaping what they had sown,. If you are on teh stock market, then you are fair game. When it was being used to raise money, they didn't whinge then.

The protests will fail as United fans have no power and no clue.



As for my club, I couldn't be happier. We beat a club that is fading faster than a t-shirt bought from Gorton Market. BTW thanks for the 'double'.

All the clued up Mancs I know have been worried about the financial problem long before City got a sugar daddy.

Hope that was a WUM. Sadly it has taken the full scale of the amount the Glazer's are fleecing Utd fans to be put down in black and white in the bond issue for the majority to finally wake up to what is happening at Old Trafford.

As for any sort of boycott, I think the 'Red Knights' will have to reveal their plans to the supporters first before most supporters will consider boycotting.

But I'm not talking about a *few* supporters refusing to turn up for games. I'm talking about 30,000+, for a few matches at least.



And if that is the case, then the United fans whining about their debts are obviously wrong, because the extra income they will bring in in the future will easily cover their debts.



I agree totally. I've said it before, many times.



They obviously have power. It's only a question of whether enough of them can be persuaded to use the power.



Top of the league, still in the Champions League, still in the FA Cup. All you've got to play for is qualifying for the CL and you don't even think you can do that.

You don't have to but it's the truth.

Will the Glazers care? They will still get the mathday income they expect. ST holders have paid for the game in advance, and those who don't turn up will be replaced by tourists or actual propoer fans who are from Trafford MBC.





Indeed. But they are being naive. I will be amazed if within 5 years, clubs are not negotiating their own individual deals.



A collective only has power if they have a collective intelligence and unity. It doesn't appear that teh fans have this.



I said 'fading', not 'faded'. We'll give it a couple of years





As gutted as I am to say this, United will win the league. Even though they are not playing that well, they look, IMO, stronger and more robust than Chelsea at the moment.