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Quote: Wayne Rooney "On a serious note I'd like to hear the views of Liverpool fans r.e Alonso, it seems he's always linked with a move away from Anfield whcih is something I find hard to understand as he has forged a wonderful partnership with zippy, with all our midfielders being happy who could you realistically get to replace him?'"



Obviously I don't want Alonso to leave. However if we get offered £21 million for him and can replace him with Barry for £8 million as is being reported, I would be tempted. I'm not saying Barry is better than Alonso, however I don't think there is £13 million differential between their talents and anything over a £10 million difference in price would make me interested. That's £10 million to go towards another striker or a wide player. If it was purely for playing skills etc, I wouldn't get rid of him, ever. We have to look at the fact that the owners aren't willing to go overboard with available funds and if we can produce some of our own for swapping one player for antoher who is only slightly less talented then it could be worth it.

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Quote: Sthelens RLFC "Obviously I don't want Alonso to leave. However if we get offered £21 million for him and can replace him with Barry for £8 million as is being reported, I would be tempted. I'm not saying Barry is better than Alonso, however I don't think there is £13 million differential between their talents and anything over a £10 million difference in price would make me interested. That's £10 million to go towards another striker or a wide player. If it was purely for playing skills etc, I wouldn't get rid of him, ever. We have to look at the fact that the owners aren't willing to go overboard with available funds and if we can produce some of our own for swapping one player for antoher who is only slightly less talented then it could be worth it.'"

Spot on in my opinion.

Alonso's had a brilliant season, but as you say, there isn't £13million between the two players.

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Quote: Fingerposts Finest "ok then kreskin lets point out the obvious shall we!

you support a joke of a team who contain arguably the biggest tool and thug in professional football, and you have the gall to cast aspersions about jamie carragher!

can you tell me when carra was jailed for beating a 16 year old senseless in the street?
can you tell me when carra viciously assaulted one of his team mates in training?
can you tell me how many times carra has been sent off in his career?

perhaps you would love to compare the answers to those questions with the lovable joey barton's career!!!

keep dreaming ash it's you who are the joke on this forum!!!!!!!!!!'"

Who brought Barton into it? Everybody knows that he's a c*nt.

If Carragher wasn't scouse, you wouldn't even be defending him. That reminds me actually, where is Barton from again? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Sthelens RLFC "Obviously I don't want Alonso to leave. However if we get offered £21 million for him and can replace him with Barry for £8 million as is being reported, I would be tempted. I'm not saying Barry is better than Alonso, however I don't think there is £13 million differential between their talents and anything over a £10 million difference in price would make me interested. That's £10 million to go towards another striker or a wide player. If it was purely for playing skills etc, I wouldn't get rid of him, ever. We have to look at the fact that the owners aren't willing to go overboard with available funds and if we can produce some of our own for swapping one player for antoher who is only slightly less talented then it could be worth it.'"


i'd be suprised if those two figures quoted where true, however, even with those two figures I still wouldn't be tempted to sell Alonso and replace him with Barry, big backward step for Liverpool (so i say go for it icon_wink.gif )

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Quote: ash4hullfc "Who brought Barton into it? Everybody knows that he's a c*nt.

If Carragher wasn't scouse, you wouldn't even be defending him. That reminds me actually, where is Barton from again?
You can take the scum out the slum...

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Quote: Ski "You can take the scum out the slum...'"


So why did a lad from near Wigan decide to support a rugby league team from Merseyside? Hmmm.....

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Quote: Sthelens RLFC "So why did a lad from near Wigan decide to support a rugby league team from Merseyside? Hmmm.....'"


Fate decided for me in 91

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Quote: Sthelens RLFC "Obviously I don't want Alonso to leave. However if we get offered £21 million for him and can replace him with Barry for £8 million as is being reported, I would be tempted. I'm not saying Barry is better than Alonso, however I don't think there is £13 million differential between their talents and anything over a £10 million difference in price would make me interested. That's £10 million to go towards another striker or a wide player. If it was purely for playing skills etc, I wouldn't get rid of him, ever. We have to look at the fact that the owners aren't willing to go overboard with available funds and if we can produce some of our own for swapping one player for antoher who is only slightly less talented then it could be worth it.'"


But that's not going to happen though, is it? No-one is going to pay £21 million for Alonso and I can't see Villa dropping their price for Barry by about £7million (Keith can confirm the precise amounts).

More realistic is keeping Alonso and just buying Barry as well. However if I was Benitez I'd probably sign another striker ahead of Barry.*

*I'd also shave my goatee off and stop talking crap as well if I was Benitez.

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Quote: Ian [77] ""But that's not going to happen though, is it? No-one is going to pay £21 million for Alonso and I can't see Villa dropping their price for Barry by about £7million (Keith can confirm the precise amounts).

More realistic is keeping Alonso and just buying Barry as well. However if I was Benitez I'd probably sign another striker ahead of Barry.*

*I'd also shave my goatee off and stop talking crap as well if I was Benitez.'"

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Quote: Dan_FC "You seem very sure on this one.



Yeah like you
i am very sure about this one. non of hull's players are good enough whats the best they have up front manucho and he is only on loan

midfeild ian ashbee what a player would do well in league 1 that about it

defence michael turner everyone aving about him at ths tart he has shown his true colours.

they just are not good enough

you can see where newcsatle can get there goals from to stay up martins and co

i just cant see who can score for hull.

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Quote: Ian [77] ""But that's not going to happen though, is it? No-one is going to pay £21 million for Alonso and I can't see Villa dropping their price for Barry by about £7million (Keith can confirm the precise amounts).
'"


I don't know mate. If City and Madrid are the bidders then I can see it going up to that figure. I've no idea on Barry, I'm using papertalk to be honest. However, if it's £10 million difference, like I said, I'd be interested.

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Quote: Ian [77] ""

More realistic is keeping Alonso and just buying Barry as well. However if I was Benitez I'd probably sign another striker ahead of Barry.*

*I'd also shave my goatee off and stop talking crap as well if I was Benitez.'"


Didn't mean to put my reply in two parts, but didn't read this bit initially.

I agree. His beard is sh[size.[/sizeit. Oh, I also agree about not bothering with a midfielder. I would prefer to stick with the same centre midfield we have now and sign other wingers and a striker but if money needs to be raised, I'd let Alonso go so long as we get a ripper of a deal.

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Quote: Sthelens RLFC "I don't know mate. If City and Madrid are the bidders then I can see it going up to that figure. I've no idea on Barry, I'm using papertalk to be honest. However, if it's £10 million difference, like I said, I'd be interested.'"


I suppose city might be that stupid - I'll give you this, if Bellamy is worth £14 million then Alonso is worth £21 million. I can't see Madrid stumping that amount of cash.

Alonso is an excellent player and better than Barry. I understand what you mean about the 'additional' 10 million but unless someone bonkers does offer that, I'd keep him and sack Barry off.

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Quote: Sthelens RLFC "I don't know mate. If City and Madrid are the bidders then I can see it going up to that figure. I've no idea on Barry, I'm using papertalk to be honest. However, if it's £10 million difference, like I said, I'd be interested.'"

you can take madrid out of that equation. not a peep coming out of the club about alonso. compare that to last year when his name was in the papers every day.

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Quote: faxtastic "i am very sure about this one. non of hull's players are good enough whats the best they have up front manucho and he is only on loan

midfeild ian ashbee what a player would do well in league 1 that about it

defence michael turner everyone aving about him at ths tart he has shown his true colours.

they just are not good enough

you can see where newcsatle can get there goals from to stay up martins and co

i just cant see who can score for hull.'"


I see where you are coming from and Hull's second half season performance put them probably in their true position, however, it's a one off game that they know they have to give everything for and could also give them another season in the prem. It is in their own hands now.

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