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Cutler is only counting just over $1million on the Broncos cap this season so he ain't going anywhere.How can you say he's a franchise QB when he's never lead the team to the playoffs and he has a losing record as a starter.He's a slightly better than average QB who has an over inflated view of himself shown last season when he said he had a better arm than Elway,he's not good enough to lace Elways boots.

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Quote: Tom Brady "My knee is fine now and Matt knew he wouldn't get a sniff, he may even have to beat out Thigpen to get the starters job in KC.'"


Are you genuinely claiming to be Tom Brady ?

Is it a looney pop day out or something ?

There are some strange folk hang around on t'internet.

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If I was Tom Brady i'd be spending my time with Gisele,not posting on a RL messageboard icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: DAR130 "Cutler is only counting just over $1million on the Broncos cap this season so he ain't going anywhere.How can you say he's a franchise QB when he's never lead the team to the playoffs and he has a losing record as a starter.He's a slightly better than average QB who has an over inflated view of himself shown last season when he said he had a better arm than Elway,he's not good enough to lace Elways boots.'"


He is way more than average. He is a fantastic QB. As for the comments about Elway he may have a stronger arm than him but that is not to say he is a better player, and he has never claimed he is.

So you have to lead a team to the play-offs to be a franchise QB?

Therefore:

Trent Dilfer was a franchise QB?
Rex Grossman is a franchise QB?

Amongst others.

Rodgers isn't a franchise QB?

A franchise QB is somebody you can build a team around for years to come. Cutler is one of those players.

If Cutler isn't a franchise QB in your opinion then why trade for Cassell who has done nothing either?

Who would you say is a franchise QB?

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Quote: DAR130 "If I was Tom Brady i'd be spending my time with Gisele,not posting on a RL messageboard
Me too icon_biggrin.gifROOL: but their married now so there will be non of that for them icon_wink.gif

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I think they obviously see a franchise QB as someone who can lead a team for years to come and have a winning record but with the amount of coaching changes that happen nowadays its hard.

i.e shanahan saw a lot in cutler and a few more years together im sure it would have come together for them, but now youve got a coach come in who IMO will be very good in the long term but needs his own players to do so. He just chose the wrong way of doing things and if he does lose Cutler which looks likely he will regret it but every coach makes mistakes.

except belicheck icon_wink.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: ST_CONROY "He is way more than average. He is a fantastic QB. As for the comments about Elway he may have a stronger arm than him but that is not to say he is a better player, and he has never claimed he is.

So you have to lead a team to the play-offs to be a franchise QB?

Therefore

Its easy for people to say the obvious ones like Brady, Manning e.t.c the proven ones but the franchise qbs are the up and coming qbs with massive potential like Matt Ryan say but again he could be a one season wonder.

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Quote: Stirlingshire Saint "Are you genuinely claiming to be Tom Brady ?

Is it a looney pop day out or something ?

There are some strange folk hang around on t'internet.'"


It's called having a laugh mate, bit of banter. I agree that there are some crazy folk on here pal, people saying Ledley King is the best defender in the premiership. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Stirlingshire Saint "Are you genuinely claiming to be Tom Brady ?

Is it a looney pop day out or something ?

There are some strange folk hang around on t'internet.'"


Are you genuinely claiming to be a Saint? Or, worse still, that you live in Scotland?

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Quote: Ian [77] ""Are you genuinely claiming to be a Saint? Or, worse still, that you live in Scotland?'"


Yes to both unfortunately.

I am not an NFL Quarterback however.

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Charles Rogers, the #2 pick in the 2003 NFL draft is heading to jail icon_lol.gif

Still quite a few good free agents out there too, Jeff Garcia, Roy Williams, Derrek Brooks, Jason Taylor to name a few...

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Quote: Stirlingshire Saint "Yes to both unfortunately.

I am not an NFL Quarterback however.'"


Me neither. I'm a strong safety.

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Quote: Sammy Stripes "Derrek Brooks, Jason Taylor to name a few...'"


Wouldn't mind these two at Green Bay. Soild veterans who could do well in our scheme.

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Quote: ST_CONROY "He is way more than average. He is a fantastic QB. As for the comments about Elway he may have a stronger arm than him but that is not to say he is a better player, and he has never claimed he is.

So you have to lead a team to the play-offs to be a franchise QB?

Therefore

We'll just have to agree to disagree on Cutler as I think Cassell will turn out to be a better QB than him and McDaniels seems to think the same as me,but hey he's only an NFL head coach what does he know icon_wink.gif icon_biggrin.gif Another thing you said was McDaniels set the Broncos back 5 years with this but if they drafted the right QB Flacco and Ryan showed last year you can turn a Franchise round in 1 year not 5.

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Quote: DAR130 "We'll just have to agree to disagree on Cutler as I think Cassell will turn out to be a better QB than him and McDaniels seems to think the same as me,but hey he's only an NFL head coach what does he know 3.1708984375:5
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