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done an ante post bet today for cheltenham with the following 4

the new one (neptune)
dynaste (rsa)
oscar whisky (world)
far west (triumph)

£10 pays £4500 with boylesport..

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Mentioned this on the list of rumours. rlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/8529122/elliott-upbeat-on-carlito-claimsrl

Its a massive plot and Elliott has played his cards perfect

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Quote: Wire_85 "Mentioned this on the list of rumours. rlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/8529122/elliott-upbeat-on-carlito-claimsrl

Its a massive plot and Elliott has played his cards perfect'"


pah i backed that bugger when it ran at aintree this season...wont be having my cash again after that performance.

seen paddy power have gone money back in hurricane fly win the champion hurldle!!

having some of that...grandouet at 6/1.. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: brearley84 "pah i backed that bugger when it ran at aintree this season...wont be having my cash again after that performance.

seen paddy power have gone money back in hurricane fly win the champion hurldle!!

having some of that...grandouet at 6/1..
All part of the master plan to keep its mark low..

Btw that run only came 8 days after its win at Cheltenham, then only 9 lengths behind Unioniste that time giving 8lbs to that and Dynaste.

He only won once from four the season it hacked up on the bit in the Coral Cup, he's been taken to Cheltenham twice to be ready for the fences

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haven't posted for a while, but here is something worth thinking over regarding the champ hurdle.

used an online stake calculator for the stakes...

paddy power's champ hurdle offer is upto £100 refund per customer

£37 on zarkandar at 9/2
£32.93 on rock on ruby at 5/1
£29.07 on grandouet at 6/1

if any of them win, it would see a profit of £103.

if fly wins, all three bets refunded.

effectively even money on three horses, with a fourth one there to return the stake if he wins. or even consider backing fly at best odds too, would merely eat a little bit out of the profit if one of the others win, but would still ensure a profit (not just stake back) if fly wins.

haven't decided my bets yet, but its certainly something i'll consider.


cheltenham bets so far

sprinter sacre - works out at 4/11 (range of prices from evens to 1/4, all NRNB concession with various firms except one which is NRFB with chandlers). the evens offered by sportingbet nrnb before the tingle creek really was brilliant.

quevega - 8/11 (two bets, evens NRFB and 1/2 NRNB)

big bucks - evens - NRFB, stake back on the day


dynaste is the short horse i want to take on atm. he has won me plenty this season, but there are a few stats he needs to overcome.

feltham winners have an awful record in the race.
he hasn't run in this calender year
he has had two seasons over hurdles
french breds have a poor record in the race.
he ran two 3m hurdle races around cheltenham and wasnt exactly staying on powerfully either time, although that is a but of a picky thing to hold against him as his stamina seemed fine at kempton on boxing day, and if a horse stays and is still finding plenty at the end of 2 and a half over hurdles then they will usually stay the three over fences without much problem.

there are some gritty irish types entered, and the good ground will see fair improvement from plenty of the home team as well. could be a trait through the novice hurdles and chases; unexpected improvement on a large scale, as a majority of the better novice races this winter have been small fields, moderate pace, heavy ground.

i know that stats aren't a biblical way, but horses such as grands crus, long run, punchestowns and time for rupert have all met at least two of those stats. i know grands crus, punchestowns and time for rupert have been disappointing in open company over fences, but going into the race they all had similar hyped up profiles to dynaste.

dynaste may just prove a cut above - stats do get blown out of the water now and again - we will have to wait and see. i just hope willie decides this is the race for boston bob, he is learning the chasing game all the time and this will be right up his street. only negative for him is his relative lack of chase experience, however, they have said from day one chasing is his game so i'm hoping his natural ability makes up for that. done nothing wrong either chasing him brindisi last year, when ruby arguably gave him plenty to do. the rsa is a brutal race, if i was david pipe i'd send dynaste for the jewson.

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Polar venture .5.30.kempton 11/8

like this horse

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Quote: brearley84 "Polar venture .5.30.kempton 11/8

like this horse'"


2nd

poor ride, all he had to do was go straight down the outer... when he did it was too late

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two today

big sylv.7.40 wlvs 9/4 probert better get the ride right this time icon_twisted.gif
dewala.5.30.south 10/11

double pays around 6/1

anyone done the sprinter sacre offer???? even money.. £20 limit but surely its a free £20 to spend icon_biggrin.gif

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need my chelt bets to come in badly, spent a kings ransom in leeds last weekend, with the bulk of it going in wildcats! going in a place like that after a skinful is asking for disaster, decided to turn into charlie sheen for a few hours.

anyone else help themselves to corals sprinter sacre offer? only for a piddling twenty quid, but its seemingly free money nonetheless.

betvictor got an offer on that sees all losing bets on the supreme novices refunded as a free bet.

hills offer tomorrow is 6/1 on oscar whisky apparently.
may be worth a poke in a weak as pish world hurdle, with more withdrawals seemingly every day.

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Quote: andym1988 "need my chelt bets to come in badly, spent a kings ransom in leeds last weekend, with the bulk of it going in wildcats! going in a place like that after a skinful is asking for disaster, decided to turn into charlie sheen for a few hours.

anyone else help themselves to corals sprinter sacre offer? only for a piddling twenty quid, but its seemingly free money nonetheless.

betvictor got an offer on that sees all losing bets on the supreme novices refunded as a free bet.

hills offer tomorrow is 6/1 on oscar whisky apparently.
may be worth a poke in a weak as pish world hurdle, with more withdrawals seemingly every day.'"


ive taken the sprinter sacre offer..measly £20 though oh well

yeh betvictor very clever, get it back as promo cash and have to win more than the promo cash to get anything back... loads of terms and cons on that bet!

oscar whisky the bet of the festival!!! already on at 7's... hope it dont turn into a bog though good, good to soft would be nice but think it will come up soft alll round

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Corals gone evens on Sprinter Scare!! Online only and £20 limit per customer, but its still a bargain.

Also, if you use promo code SHOP1073 when you put your bet on, you will get a free £20 after the race.

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Yep .... gone for the Sprintre Sacre money with Coral...

Also..

Paddy Power.. going 4/1 Simonsig & My Tent Or Yours & 5/1 Hurricane Fly & Quevega

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Many clouds today at sandown... money for cheltenham icon_biggrin.gif hope so anyway

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One more sleep until the Greatest Show On Turf commences. icon_biggrin.gifROOL:
Superb first day card.

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Really cannot make my mind up about the Champion Hurdle. All the horses have certain questions marks.

Fly - not many 9yos win it, rare for it to be re-gained, doesn't look any easier than last year
Zark - Nicholls concerned the course may be too sharp for him, may have to be the one to make the running as he certainly wouldn't be suited by a sprint finish; could be there to be shot down.
Rock on ruby - has never looked ungenuine, always seemed a real galloper, so blinkers could be a disaster. fry thinks they may help him see the race out better on this ground, but it is impossible to say until 3.25pm tomorrow. ground not ideal, but if he can get away with it being like it is then surely he has a big chance.
Grandouet - really rate this horse but one run in 15 months isn't very inspiring and reportedly didn't please Hendo in his work last week
Binocular - on his day there are few better, but can throw in the odd shocker. definitely an interesting contender, henderson has reported him to be working very, very well.
Cinders - won the supreme last year and evidently needs good ground to be at his best against class horses
CWF - looks up against it, and the record of 5yo's in this race doesn't show many winners, a good few seem to try though

selection: yet to decide, may be a late one lol


think we could see something special in the arkle. simonsig is working the house down at hendo's yard by what geraghty and the yard staff have been saying at the chelt preview nights. the ground has went for overturn, which will make his task of winning this from the front even harder. arvika ligeonneire could pick up the pieces and finish second, although coming into the race from a fall is hardly an ideal prep. will need to give these fences plenty of respect, but the ground will certainly not be an inconvenience.

selection: simonsig, e/w arvika

i fancy this to go across the irish sea. this ground will bring the stamina of champagne fever into it and i think if ruby sits handy he can gallop them all into the ground after the second last. my tent or yours couldve done with a massive field imo so mccoy could try and restrain him a bit, he has never raced on a track with a stiff hill finish and i think his style could see him treading water when push comes to shove. either that, or he will prove a class above! un atout is also an interesting bow to the mullins string. his only form over hurdles is from small field heavy ground affairs in ireland, so while the ground should suit this does mark a massive step up in class. its no secret that he is thought of very highly by all connected. dodging bullets would interest me on better ground, but he cannot be easily discounted. only other one i could give a squeak to is puffin billy, but he has hardly had a clear prep.

selection: champagne fever. e/w
he has done nothing wrong over hurdles. won LTO after ending up in front plenty early enough, with his only disappointment when he suffered a respiratory infection when well beaten behind rule the world. i know jezki beat him before that, but jezki did have the experience advantage and was also in receipt of 3lbs. CF put in a few scruffy jumps that day, and jezki had to be ridden quite vigorously to keep the margin when they hit the line. only problem is i dont see champagne fever as being anything remotely like a speed horse, but hopefully that wont matter on softened ground. he will either be right in the mix or outpaced and well beat, probably not a middle ground.

one i find interesting in the cross country is leac an scail. he proved he handled these fences and course fine in december, finishing third. he reopposes the first two, and is 1lb better off with bostons angel (1L) and 9lbs better off with outlaw pete (7.5L). in a race that can be a bit of a lottery, he may give backers a run for their money at 25/1. any currency could be thrown in off 10st 2 if he enjoys the experience.

not a race i can muster a big interest in or really give much of a hoot about, so my token selections are leac an scail and any currency (both e/w)

as for the mares, the first lady of the festival should rack up win no 5. une artist could make a race of it, as could kentford grey lady, but both need to improve a fair bit or hope quevega has readily went backwards. the ground will be fine for swing bowler and she should stay this far as well. she ranks me has been a model of consistency for mccain all winter, this will be her 9th start since august, so she has been on the go a while, but there have been a few breaks of around 6 weeks between her races so must be one of the types to take her racing well. made a well regarded hendo horse work for the win last time so warrants respect. another one i feel might have a decent race in her is the venetia williams horse stone light, which must be monitored in the betting like a lot from that yard. her french form probably isnt anything majestic (ones in front yet to really frank it) but the comments from her runs suggest this step up to 20f with a hill finish on soft ground will readily suit (described as 'kept on' over 18f), andshe should be a fairly large price in what can often be a lottery race to fill the places. in such a big field, there are bound to be a that struggle for a run or impeded so evens it out a bit.

selection: Quevega (NAP), e/w's Stone Light 66/1, she ranks me 33/1
win without fav market: swing bowler 4/1, she ranks me 14/1 e/w, stone light 28/1 e/w


dont usually spend too much time with these big field cheltenham handicaps so will leave the JLT and novice one til tomorrow.

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