Because it works eventually

Have to admire Wenger's defiance there, especially as he was within arms reach of a few Mancs

Why they didn't deserve to lose and outplayed Manchester United away from home for most of the game and it took a Penalty and an Own-Goal for them to lose...

Dear jesus, we were lucky today.

You know a penalty is right when even Alan "Kopite" Green says the rooney penalty was stone wall.

TBF, the tackle by fletcher on arshavin was a clear pen.

Arsenal are a Fantastic Footballing Side, Losing to Manchester United at Old Trafford is no means the end of the world, To outplay Manchester United away from home despite losing will give Arsenal plenty of positives and if it wasn't for Ben Fosters outstreched leg it could have quite easily been 2-0 Arsenal...
You lost at Home against a team outside the Top 4 completly different, The fact you outplayed Aston Villa at Home and still lost 3-1 is why you are not serious Title Challengers...

So let me get this, we lose a game and aren't serious title contenders after what, four games? Yet Arsenal, a side who were sh*t last year suddenly are?

It's far too early to be making predictions like that. It just makes me laugh how every year, every neutral gets giddy over Arsenal, "they are the most entertaining", "they don't pass it long", "they've finally matured" bla bla bla. It's the same old same old with Arsenal, what use is outplaying a side if you're not gonna win?

Today's game proved relatively little for Arsenal's title credentials, in fact, it shown United are more credible champions as they won despite being second best. I mean, playing well and losing is what Arsenal do every year, and every year they don't win the title.

Think Liverpool stopped being serious title contenders in many people's eyes when they sold Alonso. Gerrard doesn't look to be at his best and there's a striking lack of quality depth in the squad.

To be honest, I think when Aquilani returns, Alonso will be forgotten. If we're still in it at Christmas and Aquilani settles well, then I feel we'll definitely be there or thereabouts come May.

Problem with Gerrard is he isn't getting enough ball, something Alonso always made sure happened, it was basically Alonso's role. I believe when Aquilani comes in, he'll strike up a great partnership with Gerrard, just like Alonso did, but I believe Aquilani will certainly add more offensively than Alonso, but we may lack Xabi's battling qualities defensively more.

A Lack in depth in general Starting 11 is worthy of Top 4, In Depth they are behind Manchester City & Tottenham Hotspur IMO...

I'd say the bigger problem is that when Gerrard doesn't get enough ball two players suffer and they are your best two.
Torres needs Gerrard to take the ball up and draw the defender.
As for Aquilani, he's in the Gerrard mould. Where as Alonso complimented Gerrard I think you could end up with a Lampard/Gerrard England situation.

Arsenal weren't Sh*t last year they were struck down with numerous injuries and the fact the still made the Top 4 shows the depth in the squad they have. Losing two out of your first 4 games isn't a great start and the fact if Gerrard & Torres were to get injured you really would struggle IMO your squad isn't capable of a Title Challenge.


No it isn't you have what 4 Days until the End of the Transfer Window and for the sake of there Title Challenge you better hope that Liverpool make some signings.


It proved they are up there with the best, They outplayed the Champions in there own ground and lost by a Penalty and Own-Goal i'd say if i was Arsenal i'd think i was very unfourtunate and be positive in the factperformed how they did, They will play a lot worse and win this season.

So let me get this one. Arsenal weren't crap last year because they had injuries, but we spend basically half a season without a fully fit Torres and still managed to challenge, yet we're the sh*t ones and Arsenal are the ones getting everyone wet? Always knew you were a closet gooner.

Arsenal have always been up there with the best, but people get carried away every season when they put in a spell of a few good games, claiming them champions in August, same with our fans, too.

Today proved little. If you to OT, dominate and don't win, you've got to ask yourselves serious question as to WTF has gone wrong.

Arsenal went to OT last year and held their own in the league, they beat them at the Emirates but it still proves relatively little. Give it a few months before anybody is wrote off. The fact is, Arsenal lost today, considering most say United are severely weakened, what does that say about Arsenal? The result is all that matters.


As for Aquilani and Gerrard. I don't think they're that alike, Aquilani has often been played in 'the hole' quite simply because Spalletti preferred Pizzaro and de Rossi in the middle over him. When Aquilani played in the middle he was probably better there, as that's his natural position, whereas with Gerrard, I believe he's naturally a second striker/attacking midfielder, despite him not playing there that long.

I believe Aquilani could fill Alonso's role but actually add more to the team against the smaller sides, as he's much better at getting forward than Alonso, and his creative passing is vastly superior. My only worry is in the big games, but Lucas shown last year at OT he can hold his own against a top side.