GINGER GREY

Haven't had a winner for a few week but yesterday produced a nice little profit

Had a football acca of:

BIRMINGHAM
PRESTON
MK
BURY
HEARTS
RAITH
all won...

unfortunately, I had one more team: HULL

All about Cue Card

Reckon it will be 6 or 7/1 for the Supreme Novices if showing a good round of jumping today, has it all on paper still only 4yo won the bumper on only second start and the dam ran in the Grand National.

Captain Chris gone I have on a ton @ 1.7 to 1.72 some lucky gits got 1.8

Wishfull Thinking and Cue Card double at Aintree @ 2/1

Longchamp 3.10

Flying Cross @ 5/1

3rd in the Irish St Leger when staying on so step up in trip should help and Buick onboard who has done great over in France recently.

Spot on with Cue Card's Supreme Novices price. Not sure "ran" would be the right word for Wicked Crack's Aintree performance "led until fell 1st" is the official line

Wishful Thinking went at the first so hard to know what we learnt from the race though Adam's Island is highly regarded by the Curtis yard in terms of 3m Chasers of the future.

Shame about Wishfull Thinking would of been nice double

Ended up with over 2 ton on Cue Card @ 1.7 and at 4/6 all them favs going down didn't do my nerves any good along with Cue pulling its head early on, did its job well though they said before the race it had been jumping like a cat at home hopefully it carries on improving until March.

Got 10/1 E/W for the 2m 4f novices, couple of quid on Champion Hurdle @ 100/1 and most on 10/1 E/W for Supreme Novices hopefully they go for that one.

Its up to you but I would keep your money.

A week is a long time in racing let alone October til Cheltenham. Antepost betting doesn't interest me any more.

Cash is down, I love Ante post betting its all about trying to spot the future value bets theres big risks but big rewards as well its not everyones cup of tea best one recently was Sans in the St Leger @ 11/2 went off 13/8 I think.

33/1 and 25/1 for Champion Hurdle.

From what I have read Tizzard has got Cheltenham in a few weeks in mind for it sounded like he's worried the horse might be too good for his yard and might end up with one of the so called big yards.

Not saying its a odds on for anything come next March but you could just see the 10s going so wanted to take them, Dunguib was a let down am still a big fan though hopefully we will see better of it next year Fenton aint letting that one run until early Jan.

Yeah, he did mention the the Open Meeting at Cheltenham as a possibility as he said today hasn't taken anything out of him. The first thing he did say in the interview was 'I don't know what he's beat today' he was coy and wouldn't give anything away so maybe you're right an he's not wanting to big him up incase he does lose him, which would be a shame because he's done a cracking job.



I certainly could see the odds going and like you I'd be inclined to take them too, I can certainly see him being a lot shorter come March but I'd just want to see him make a similar impact in something like the Paddy Power Gold Cup weekend before getting on for anything like the Supreme at 6/1, he just hasn't shown enough yet. I'm looking forward to Dunguib coming out early next year, I hope he can return to his pre Cheltenham form.

Thing is though if it goes Cheltenham and beats say a couple of 135-145 rated horses then the 6/1 will then become 9/2 or 4/1 maybe lower, duffs it then its back out to 16s maybe 20s like Menorah did before it won the Supreme thats just the risk you take.

Dunguib is a great puzzle am already on at 6/1 for Champion Hurdle after making the big mistake of expecting it to win the first at Cheltenham but I have nibbled at 22/1 E/W Champion Hurdle and 99/1 for the World Hurdle, remember a few coming on here after it came third in Supreme novices saying it did nothing in Ireland beating dogs not really true when it won the Deloitte in unreal fashion beating Fionnegas - was last seen giving Reve De Sivola a right run for its money in a Grade 1 and is rated 147 over hurdles.

You can hardly say thats nothing last I read was Fenton was giving it two runs in 2011 before Cheltenham maybe the thinking is that it was on the go too much last year after winning the bumper it then went Punchestown for another bumper and schooled over hurdles as well, then came back in August more schooling then 4 races before the Supreme, so thats 8 races from 2009 to now which is a alot for a horse that gets lit up easy and even though it was 6yo it hadn't been used to that before just maybe it was overcooked last March.

It sure is and I for one hope you reap the rewards. For me, I'd just like to see some good form before commiting to getting on for Cheltenham, we're very early into the season and I'm certain by end of Nov/early December we'll have a much more competitive market and I think even with a good run at Paddy Power meeting he'll still be around 6s anyway. I like to be more cautious for my festival bets, it's easy to get caught up in early season hype and back something before letting the form develop.



You're preaching to the converted here mate, I'm with you all the way. I think there was a lot of eagerness to get the horse out running and a lot of hype that surrounded him, he was quite green and destroyed everything he faced in Ireland, I thought he ran an awful lot pre Cheltenham and thought he had a two races too many at least, I'm sure they'll be a lot more particular this season and fingers crossed that'll see a much more improved Dunguib and he can silence some doubters next March.

Best case scenario is he goes to Cheltenham in a couple of weeks for a 2m 5f Novices I think it is (the one Tell Massini won last year) and takes on a Nicholls ex-pointer/French-bred (probably Domtaline IMO) and beats him 10+ lengths. He'll be impressive but we'll still be none the wiser as to whether he's a genuine 160+ horse which is what he'll need to be to contest the Champion Hurdle let alone win.

I think it's far from being the greatest bet of all time but would much rather take the 33/1 and 40/1 (I think) about last weeks Cheltenham winner Clerk's Choice for the Champion Hurdle.

There've been plenty of very impressive Champion Bumper winners who've started short price favs for the Supreme/2m 5f Novices and been turned over - in addition to the usual Irish hotpots, think You'llneverwalkalone, Cousin Vinny, Dunguib, Like-A-Butterfly, Cardinal Hill etc.

Good luck with the bets and he was most certainly impressive yesterday

This is the great thing about jumps as it just builds towards Cheltenham an so much will happen along the way, I have really enjoyed the flat this year and we still have the Breeders Cup to come but can't beat jumps IMO

Agreed though I wish it was less Cheltenham-centric tbh. More big races at other tracks would help, particularly given that Cheltenham is farily unique.

Oh and a Grade 1 3m 4f Chase over the XC course worth £250,000 at the Festival to add to the Crystal Cup Series is required too