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Quote: Robbie Rotten "I know but we've beaten you twice this year, and both games have been on the back of us out-working you above all other departments we done better than you in, same with Chelsea.

It's based on the two games this season, the only real way we can make a direct comparison between the two sides, and both times we've come out on top, mainly because we've got the better in midfield and 'hussled' you out of the game. You're a top side and barely do you get 'bullied' in midfield, rarely do you get out-hussled and rarely do you get out-worked, I've not seen you in every game this year, but from what I have seen, we're the only team who have really matched, and even bettered your work rate, in my opinion.'"


And what have you got to show for it? You're in third place and out of the FA Cup. You went out of the Carling Cup to Tottenham, who Man United beat in the final.

You're having your best season in years. Chelsea are having their worst in years, and we're still ahead of you. Man United have struggled to match their heights of last year, but they've gone to Asia and won the World Mickey Mouse Cup, they've won the Carling Cup, are in the semis of the FA Cup and they are in pole position to win the league again.

There's also the fact that as you've drawn twice as many games as United, you will have had to work hard to try and gain wins from those games. Man United won't have had to fight to win similar games because they've had the quality to win them comfortably.

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FA Cup semi-finalists are 4 of the PL top 6...does this signify a return of the big clubs respecting the competition more or is it easy paths to the semi's??

For what it's worth I think the majority of the top clubs respect the FA Cup and want to win it every year, it's the ones struggling against relegation from the PL who show it less respect.

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Anybody else agree that Wenger is an absolute 'wit, how he can say that's a goal is beyond me, as for Fabregas I can imagine hime doing something like that, didn't the house have a pop at Mark Hughes a few years back.

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Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "And what have you got to show for it? You're in third place and out of the FA Cup. You went out of the Carling Cup to Tottenham, who Man United beat in the final.

You're having your best season in years. Chelsea are having their worst in years, and we're still ahead of you. Man United have struggled to match their heights of last year, but they've gone to Asia and won the World Mickey Mouse Cup, they've won the Carling Cup, are in the semis of the FA Cup and they are in pole position to win the league again.

There's also the fact that as you've drawn twice as many games as United, you will have had to work hard to try and gain wins from those games. Man United won't have had to fight to win similar games because they've had the quality to win them comfortably.'"


I struggle to understand what point you're making that is relevant to how hard a side works? icon_confused.gif

As I said in my comment on the first page, I wasn't gloating, it was just an interesting debate. I'm not trying to say we're the best, that we have something to show for our work rate or anything like that, as I don't believe we've been good enough to win any competition domestically.

I'm not trying to say we're the best, and I'm not saying we have something to show for it, it was just a debate that Enfield Exile brought up about United being the hardest working side in the league, and I was curious to see if his - or anybody else's - opinion may have changed since the weekend, when considering our result against them earlier this season.

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Quote: Robbie Rotten "I struggle to understand what point you're making that is relevant to how hard a side works?

City beat us twice last season...case closed. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Mark "as for Fabregas I can imagine hime doing something like that, didn't the house have a pop at Mark Hughes a few years back.'"


You don't need to imagine Fabregas spitting at someone. The most famous video sharing website has a video of him spitting in Michael Ballack's face.

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Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "You don't need to imagine Fabregas spitting at someone. The most famous video sharing website has a video of him spitting in Michael Ballack's face.'"



Fabregas, who was out injured, later strenuously denied the allegation.

"I categorically deny that I spat at anybody after the match," said the 21-year-old Gunners midfielder.

"I have never done this in my whole career on the pitch, so why would I do it when I am not even playing?

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The little liar

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Quote: Mark "Anybody else agree that Wenger is an absolute love'wit, how he can say that's a goal is beyond me, as for Fabregas I can imagine hime doing something like that, didn't the house have a pop at Mark Hughes a few years back.'"


Fabregas told Hughes that he should be ashamed at the style of football produced by Blackburn, especially as he was once a Barca player. A tad disrespectful, IMO.

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Quote: Enfield Exile "Fabregas told Hughes that he should be ashamed at the style of football produced by Blackburn, especially as he was once a Barca player. A tad disrespectful, IMO.'"


Didn't he say something like "you played for Barcelona once, that wasn't Barcelona football" or something like that?

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Quote: Robbie Rotten "Just bringing up a topic from a few weeks back by Enfield Exile.

After seeing the game at the weekend, and the game at Anfield earlier this year, do you still feel United are a harder working team than us? I know I said we work harder off the ball, but after seeing the weekend I'm struggling to think of a harder working team than us, I'd love to see if there was a team that covers more ground than us, and that was without one of our hardest workers - Alonso.

I'm not gloating here, I just thought it was an interesting debate, and I'd be interested to hear if your views have changed...'"


My views haven't changed, fella. United may have been out-played at the weekend, mainly because of the hardwork that the Liverpool players put in, but I still believe that they are the hardest working team in the country. It's easy to use one or two examples, to justify your point. For example, United worked harder against City at Eastlands this season than Liverpool did in either of their two games against us this season.

Liverpool had much more to play for this weekend. United appeared a bit lacklustre and lax. No-one can blame, as they pretty much have the title sewn up.

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Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "And what have you got to show for it? You're in third place and out of the FA Cup. You went out of the Carling Cup to Tottenham, who Man United beat in the final.

You're having your best season in years. Chelsea are having their worst in years, and we're still ahead of you. Man United have struggled to match their heights of last year, but they've gone to Asia and won the World Mickey Mouse Cup, they've won the Carling Cup, are in the semis of the FA Cup and they are in pole position to win the league again.

There's also the fact that as you've drawn twice as many games as United, you will have had to work hard to try and gain wins from those games. Man United won't have had to fight to win similar games because they've had the quality to win them comfortably.'"






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Chelsea have only been a club worthy of notice for a handful of years!!!!

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Anyone seen the post match press conference? Biggest case of sour grapes that I have seen in ages from Phil Brown, what a loser icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Dave Lister "Anyone seen the post match press conference? Biggest case of sour grapes that I have seen in ages from Phil Brown, what a loser
Not turning up for one would probably be bigger. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: keithcun "Not turning up for one would probably be bigger.
that one was set up rather nicely for you wasn't it icon_lol.gif

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Rochdale
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15:00
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Castleford
       League One 2025-R11
15:00
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Keighley
15:00
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Dewsbury
 Fri 13th Jun 2025
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19:00
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Goole V
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20:00
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v
Castleford
20:00
Hull KR
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Catalans
 Sat 14th Jun 2025
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17:30
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 Sun 15th Jun 2025
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Rochdale
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Swinton
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Workington
15:00
Whitehaven
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Cornwall
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Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
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