own goal and a penalty

venegoor of hesselink is coming on mind the spelling





Altidore off - Hesselink on.

Both conceded by the same player, no less.

Yes





poor Zayatte

Everton are getting alot of pressure on Hull City's goal i can see them scoreing a third

5 mins left, add whatever injury time.

Geovanni off. Kilbane on.



geovanni got told off for not going off right away

4 mins of added time tense time for City fans

Free kick on the edge of the box

Hit the wall





and thats the game Hull City - 3 -- Everton - 2, well done City.

Can i just say Anderson from Man U must be one of the poorest midfielders playing in Europe. He is shocking!



As a Liverpool fan i dont rate Lucas but comparing the two he is a much better player imo and so does Dunga,

Did it finish 1-0

Besiktas give senior debuts to 3 youngsters.



United need some money spent if they're to keep up with Chelsea because players like Anderson, Gibson, Rafael and Foster are just not good enough imo.

chelsea are a class apart at the moment.

Foster could do nothing with the goal, it took an awful deflection.



Rafael didn't do too badly, but been a natural RB it was difficult for him, especially playing behind a midfield 4 that have never played a competitive match together, plus with Park in front of him who has been out injured for a while.



I didn't think we did too badly in the second half, Obertan was quality throughout, we had some decent balls into the box, if Owen had been playing when they were made, I'm sure he would've scored. Welbeck is not a bad player when he has the ball under control, just his first touch lets him down on occasions.



Macheda and Brown were unlucky not to score, some great saves by Rustu, and Evra should've had a penalty. Still, fair play to Besiktas, I'm sure we'll get the point we need in Germany.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo.



In Rafa we trust....





.... 19 years and counting!

Darren Ferguson possibly.

Sky Bet special

Everton v Liverpool Europa League Final 50/1

Im not Basing Foster and rafael on tonights performance. I never see them do well. Do you ever see Foster pull off saves like Rustu today ? His another Scott Carson imo.



Danny Wellbeck is qulity, absolute Gem and much better developed than Machada at this age.



Whats you opinion on Anderson ? For me he is poor! Very poor. He doesent do enough in attack and he isent that good at breaking play up like a Fletcher or Mascherano.

To be fair Southgate made a good point. All the resrves were out at once which makes it difficult.

Foster is actually a top shot stopper, his problem is that he is prone to errors (seems a standard requirement to be an English 'keeper) and his communication isn't the best, still he's low on confidence ATM which can't help. Rafael is actually a quality RB, he's much better than Neville, and offers more than O'Shea, although he isn't as consistent as O'Shea yet, which is obvious as he's only 19ish, that will come with experience.







I think Macheda has a better first touch than Welbeck, and he is obviously physically stronger. They've both been shifted out left on occasions, like Rooney in the past, and I think they'll only get better with more game time. I'd like to see them get a chance alongside Rooney one time.







I'm actually a big Anderson fan. He has excellent work rate, he's got decent strength and has a very good passing range. One problem for him is that sometimes he tries the special killer ball at times which doesn't work with the strikers in front of him. Again he's only 21ish, his decision making and quality will only improve over time, he is a lot stronger when he has either Carrick or Fletcher at his side, and when he and Fletch are in the middle together, we have a decent, competitive midfield.

I think Ferguson would be nuts to take that job. Portsmouth would be nuts to offer it to him.



He's only been a manager for two years. He's done really, really well to win two promotions and in many ways has been treated harshly by being sacked after doing that. But the fact is that Peterborough got rid because they didn't think he'd be able to keep them in the Championship. Why would Portsmouth think that he'd be able to keep them in the PL?

Utd did not deserve to lose and played some good stuff at times. Obertan did well for most fo the game and there is definately more to come from him. Park was excellent especially in the first half and it will be good to have him back.

i think that Obertan is going to be a top player, he looks good already some good skills.



maybe a run in the first team i think he is ready to play more regular.



also saw the premier league scores, congrats to Hull on a good win, although i do think that there just dleying the inevitable, i just cant see the quality in there squad to stay up.

Just Watched the start of the cricket, Aus v WI. i notice even cricket now has a challenge system in where challening the umpires decision is allowed a certain amount of times.



so Tennis, Cricket use this system why cant it be introduced into Football. i understand that it can slow games down if you let them challenge every decision but in tennis your allowed 3 challenges and its a system that works well.