Rafa is partly to blame, only a mug would deny that; however, Rafa isn't the one in control of our tactics, our style of play, our mentality and our team selections anymore, and these are the biggest problems fans have with Roy. The way we're set out to counter-attack at home, the way we're so submissive in games, the casting out of young Dani Pacheco, the nonsense in the media and so on, it's just silly. Little did you know, but Rafa was criticized for similar things last season by many supporters.

Roy is simply a poor coach, he is limited and he isn't the man to take our club forward. Some people want patience, but he was a 'yes man' brought in under the previous regime to oversee a takeover, he wasn't a manager brought in to take the club forward, to develop the playing squad and get us competing again, he was brought in to keep things safe, make sure nothing too calamitous happened, whilst he was 'safe' enough to come in and just do a job and not need heavy movement like Rafa wanted.

The sooner Roy is gone, the better, and that doesn't mean Rafa should be here, 'cause he shouldn't, IMO.

Why you bringing up Rafa?

Anyone with half a brain can see Roy is more then struggling.

Its not like his is coming from another country and needs time to get used to the league.

He is out of his depth already lost 7 league games this season not even half way through the season, we lost 11 in the whole of last season.

You were supporting Rafa when he struggled though? It was the owner sfault then. I meant to ask you, is the wearing of Inter Milan attire a common thing amongst Liverpool fans nowadays, the reason I ask I seen 3 or 4 fans going into OT at our home game with cpas or tracksuit tops on, it's probably nothing but you'd have a better idea than me.

Wasting your breath mate.

Had we of had new owners though and our form was the same league position etc I would be calling for Rafa to go.

Roy is beyond awful he makes me cringe.

I know you had a massive thing for Rafa but let it go I have.

I just enjoy being right.

Roma v Shakhtar Donetsk

AC Milan v Tottenham

Valencia v Schalke

Inter Milan v Bayern Munich

Lyon v Real Madrid

Arsenal v Barcelona

Mille v Manchester United

Copenhagen v Chelsea


Potential banana skin for United. Chelsea will breeze through.

I think Roy is doing a great job at Liverpool. How he can get that team up to 9th is beyond me.

I thought you'd know all about the act of punching above your weight...

I did beat the crap out of a year 11 when I was in year 9 yeah.

Was it in a Beamont vs. Padgate scrap, like?

Are you an ultra as well?

Padgate V Woolston in my day. On that Bridge that leads to fearnhead at the back of the linear.

I don't remember that, was it anyone i knew?

Padgate vs. Woolston took place on Dam Lane in my era. Immense.

Roma v Shakhtar Donetsk
AC Milan v Tottenham
Valencia v Schalke
Inter Milan v Bayern Munich
Lyon v Real Madrid
Arsenal v Barcelona
Mille v Manchester United
Copenhagen v Chelsea