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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "Or is it a work...........'"
No, he's walked. I can understand his frustrations. Personally, I've always felt that Punk was a better heel than face, so I can't see why WWE wouldn't place him at #1 heel spot instead of Orton. I mean, I know WHY Orton is where he is, but WWE need to learn their nepotism is going to be the death of them.
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| Quote: roofaldo2 "No, he's walked. I can understand his frustrations. Personally, I've always felt that Punk was a better heel than face, so I can't see why WWE wouldn't place him at #1 heel spot instead of Orton. I mean, I know WHY Orton is where he is, but WWE need to learn their nepotism is going to be the death of them.'" That comment was over 2 weeks ago.
At that point no one was sure it's only become crystal clear afterwards.
With regard to Orton the problem is that he doesn't work well as a heel in the PG era. Simply put unless he his terrorizing women in their homes or kicking people in the head he/his character doesn't have enough depth to pull it off.
Then you get him as a face and his nickname of Borton needs no explaining.
It's a shame really because as John Layfield rightly says on commentary if you were to build a WWE superstar from the ground up it WOULD look like Randy Orton but you would just have to add a HUGE amount of personallity.
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| Elimination Chamber was average.
The chamber match was good to watch but Shield V's The Wyatt's was superb....... Amazing how the audience can get into a match when it is built over a period of time.
Have to ask though.
Is anyone else getting annoyed with the way WWE has started zooming the camera in an out when there is a beat down....... Have only noticed it recently but find it almost making it unwatchable?
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| No Sting for WM then. Don't see it ever happening now. Resent WWE for this, because they had a chance 13 years ago when they bought WCW to do the biggest storyline in wrestling history, but at face value were too tight to spend the money. At the same time they wasted £50million on a flop football league.
Sting is probably too old now anyway, but will always wonder what dream matches he could have had with Taker, HBK, Rock etc if WWE had done what they do now with Lesnar and Batista - made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
Speaking of Batista, I recently read his 2008 WWE autobiography and in parts he comes across as a nice guy, but when you come back at 45 for huge money and get pushed instantly as a main eventer despite so far poor efforts, don't be surprised to get booed out of the building. His match against Orton will be interesting, but maybe not in a good way.
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| Quote: Roofs "No Sting for WM then.
WWE. It only counts if you did it while working for them. Anything done elsewhere, regardless of what it was, how many tickets you sold or whatever else, does not count.
And it's so good to see Batista doing John Cena's "I'm here for the fans even if they boo me or cheer me" rubbish. The fans are against him PLUS his character has always worked better as a heel. So, you've got this guy who the fans are legitimately booing and this guy who, not only wrestling fans in arenas but people in the wider world are chanting for, why on earth would you pi$$ those buyrates away by sticking with a "putting the boss' son in laws mates in main events" stance?
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| Quote: roofaldo2 "WWE. It only counts if you did it while working for them. Anything done elsewhere, regardless of what it was, how many tickets you sold or whatever else, does not count.
And it's so good to see Batista doing John Cena's "I'm here for the fans even if they boo me or cheer me" rubbish. The fans are against him PLUS his character has always worked better as a heel. So, you've got this guy who the fans are legitimately booing and this guy who, not only wrestling fans in arenas but people in the wider world are chanting for, why on earth would you pi$$ those buyrates away by sticking with a "putting the boss' son in laws mates in main events" stance?'" Because they honestly think they know best.
So far they have tried burying Bryan over and over again and it didn't work then they have tried aligning him with a heel faction only for the crowds to say 'nah were still going to cheer him' so much so that they had to quickly hurry the conclusion/change tactic when it became clear it wasn't going to work. They honestly don't get that doing what they are doing just helps push him more.
Then they have the stupid idea to gift a wrestlemania spot to HHH's mate as you say whilst not even giving a RR spot to THE guy ATM.
Has anyone else made the connection between the crowd reaction whilst DB was fighting against the 'family' and the problems the family's latest target has with the fans. Do the WWE backroom think the fans are that dumb?
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| Well, they've turned Boretista heel. Which means that currently it's heel vs heel at WM.
Guess we need Super Cena to save the day again
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| Quote: roofaldo2 "Well, they've turned Boretista heel. Which means that currently it's heel vs heel at WM.
Guess we need Super Cena to save the day again'" Thankfully creative got creative last night and that was one of the best segments for a while.
SMH playedit perfectly as did both HHH and DB.
WWE didn't have much choice due to the WWE universe pretty much telling Boorista to get the F out though.
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| But you know they're going to screw it up come WM. Either they'll book HHH as an unstoppable monster and squash DB or he'll[DB] will only just squeak a win and get screwed over in the main event
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| The ending of Raw was a lovely throwback.
Some have complained about the chair shot though. It seems they really have no clue about what extreme wrestling is.
It wasn't even a real chair shot as it hit the corner post unlike the now famous Mankind Vs Rock bout when IIRC Mick Foley took 13 chair shots to the head.
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| I genuinely don't know what to think right now after WM. Probably need to watch it again tomorrow to work out how I'm supposed to feel.
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| WOW just WOW.
spoilers below highlighted
HHH v Bryan - brilliant
Shield v Outlaws - bit unnecessary, surely they could have found a better use for the Shield
Battle Royal - a typical snoozefest but the dying stages were good and ending was a superb wm moment. Fitting winner.
Taker v Lesnar. Sorry if spoiling guys but that's the most shocking thing EVER in wrestling. Moreso than the Montreal screwjob.
Divas. glad with the ending.
Title triple threat - best title match in recent memory. It was so good that they managed to rescue the atmosphere after the Taker match. I do feel that Bryan's moment was slightly dampened by Lesnar v Taker though, but maybe thats paranoia, hell he won two matches at the biggest event in history and walked away with the belt - so I guess the yes movement can't be too greedy!
I'm with you cm punk - I need to watch it again. I can only assume that Lesnar is going to have a more steady run, albeit if just for a few months, in WWE and take the strap soon. Why else would they let him break it? I kinda wish it was CM Punk who did it now.
Best Mania in a few years regardless. At least since WM25 or 26. 28 was OK but 27 (Which I attended) and 29 sucked.
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| I'm just, I'm just in shock by it all. It's absolutely ridiculous.
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| WWE pull out the biggest swerve in wrestling history. Brock will have some intense heat tonight on Raw.
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| Given that Sting has now signed with WWE and is telling people "31", hes obviously going to be fighting Taker at WM 31, but would have been better if Taker was still undefeated.
RAW was awesome last night!
Regards
King James
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