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| Quote: G1 "I can see why you can't be d discussing it because you choose to ignore the fact that the inury was caused on a drop pback pass from the pocket and not an option play. This fact doesn't suit what you have to say about the subject so you can't be d.
Fair enough.'"
Video sharing site: Baylor Football: Rehab for RG3
Video sharing site: Robert Griffin III RG3 Knee Destroyed by Haloti Ngata
1st video is the first knee blowout. On an option play.
2nd video is the beginning of his current injury. Again a QB run. Which was then aggravated early in the Seahawks game. Then of course the ACL went on that sandbox of a pitch.
You want to ignore that continual hits etc. throughout the season will weaken the knee then fair enough.
I know I said I wasn't getting into it again but I'm not getting talked down to by some fan boy. Done with it now.
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| I'm with Ndamukong on the option/run - sure it is exciting and can be very effective but it places your most important possession at undue risk of being hit (usually low) by huge defensive players. It's just too risky for me and definitely contributed to RG3's injury. I don't think that style of play is a something that will work long term in the NFL. RG3 however will be an exceptional player as, unlike most other option style QB's, he has the ability to be an extremely proficient pocket passer too.
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| Quote: ST_CONROY "I'm with Ndamukong on the option/run - sure it is exciting and can be very effective but it places your most important possession at undue risk of being hit (usually low) by huge defensive players. It's just too risky for me and definitely contributed to RG3's injury. I don't think that style of play is a something that will work long term in the NFL. RG3 however will be an exceptional player as, unlike most other option style QB's, he has the ability to be an extremely proficient pocket passer too.'"
Exactly. Thanks for taking the time to actually think it through. Once RG3 becomes a runner he's open to any type of hit. These aren't college players doing the hits. They are big hairy d pro's and will leave a mark.
Anyway, onwards. Hopefully he makes a full recovery and doesn't lose the athletic ability that makes him so special.
Looking forward to tonights games. Struggling to see past a Denver blowout in the first game. I love that Denver D and they of course have one of the greatest at QB. The Ravens D isn't what it was and I can't see Flacco pulling them through on the road. Ray Rice needs a huge day for the Ravens to win.
So long as Green Bays D stays disciplined I fancy them to beat the 9ers. If they don't it'll get ugly fast. Don't really buy into Kaepernick after he looked pretty ordinary against us twice.
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| Quote: Ndamukong "Exactly. Thanks for taking the time to actually think it through. Once RG3 becomes a runner he's open to any type of hit. These aren't college players doing the hits. They are big hairy d pro's and will leave a mark.
Anyone, onwards. Hopefully he makes a full recovery and doesn't lose the athletic ability that makes him so special..'"
Exactly....and that is the difference between being hit in the pocket and hit on the run. Anything goes. If you're going to do that then you need to slide/get OOB as soon as pressure is on you - which obviously diminishes the benefit of the system.
Rodgers IIRC leads the league in QB rushing since he started (obviously he's had more seasons that Cam, RG3 etc), however he runs almost exclusively to extend the opportunity to pass the ball downfield (leads to some sacks) and doesn't get hit that often (Detroit in our SB year was the last big hit he took)....RG3 could/should develop into a similar style to Rodgers.
Quote: Ndamukong "Looking forward to tonights games. Struggling to see past a Denver blowout in the first game. I love that Denver D and they of course have one of the greatest at QB. The Ravens D isn't what it was and I can't see Flacco pulling them through on the road. Ray Rice needs a huge day for the Ravens to win.
So long as Green Bays D stays disciplined I fancy them to beat the 9ers. If they don't it'll get ugly fast. Don't really buy into Kaepernick after he looked pretty ordinary against us twice.'"
I'm concerned by their physicality because that just isn't our style. We can't let them bully us early on otherwise it will be difficult for us to come back. Stick to our style and we have a great shot.
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| After last weekends boring games I hope the start of this weeks games are a sign of things to come 14-14 after 10 mins of play
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| John Fox needs to find himself a pair of .
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| Fox got what he deserved. Guy needs to trust his team more.
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| I can't believe they took a knee at the end of the game with 2 timeouts and a kicker with a cannon leg.
Same old Peyton always choking
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| Loved that game! Thought Baltimore were a little unlucky to be down anyway in the last minute. What a misread though for the TD. That was nothing more than a good ol' fashioned "hit and hope".
Here's to the possibility of a Harbowl!
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| This Green Bay D is the worst unit I have ever seen. Both in this game and in week 17 they have been complete and utter embarrassments. Did Capers watch the Alex Smith tape by mistake?
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| Same old Rodgers. MVP my a'rse. Gutting to watch knowing we have slapped those two teams the past 4 times we've met.
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| Quote: Mark "Same old Rodgers. MVP my a'rse. Gutting to watch knowing we have slapped those two teams the past 4 times we've met.'"
I can't even be bothered to bite Mark, as I'm sure you're aware what you've written is rubbish.
All I can say after that is Dom Capers needs to be fired. We have had some terrible defensive performances over the last few years (this year has been ok for the most part) but that was the worst I have ever seen. You have the best QB in the league, he doesn't need an elite defence to win. He needs a defence that can make the occasional stop and not get run all over. It shouldn't have been a surprise that the 49ers were running the ball so who on earth knows what he was practising this week.
Very poor defensive effort.
I'll be a Ravens (Texans if they win) fan for the rest of the playoffs - can't stand any of the other teams.
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| MVP Ri Quote: ST_CONROY "I can't even be bothered to bite Mark, as I'm sure you're aware what you've written is rubbish.
MVP Rodgers didn't do enough. That isn't rubbish or my opinion. It's fact.
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| Quote: Mark "MVP RiMVP Rodgers didn't do enough. That isn't rubbish or my opinion. It's fact.'"
Scoring 31 should be enough to win 99% of games. Rodgers did enough. The defence didn't.
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